The future of Astraya

[wayneL]

Think of running for Parliament @Smurf1976 ?

If so you had better let us know so we know who to vote for.

Well, we might just get our power grid sorted

 

[Smurf1976]

Think of running for Parliament @Smurf1976 ?

If so you had better let us know so we know who to vote for.

Nah. Thought about it once but I think that's ship's sailed. I'd be far too keen on getting things done, and wouldn't survive the game playing that comes with it.

If I do something else, well I guess I could always sell petrol. That's what Smurfs did wasn't it?

 

[sptrawler]

Nah. Thought about it once but I think that's ship's sailed. I'd be far too keen on getting things done, and wouldn't survive the game playing that comes with it.

If I do something else, well I guess I could always sell petrol. That's what Smurfs did wasn't it?

You wouldn't last 10 minutes, then you would be sitting over next to Fatima Payman, how long do you think the muppets in parliament would put up with you telling them the truth.

 

[Smurf1976]

You wouldn't last 10 minutes, then you would be sitting over next to Fatima Payman, how long do you think the muppets in parliament would put up with you telling them the truth.

Unfortunately that's the reality and (not referring to myself specifically) it deters the people who should be in parliament from going anywhere near the place.

I mean if you've got some existing viable career, anything at all no matter what it is, why would you swap it for politics? Answer = only if you're miserably failing in what you're doing now. And so we get a parliament filled with people who'd struggle to get a job otherwise.

 

[sptrawler]

Interesting discussion tonight, a NZ guy was saying all the problems in Australia are because of the English, I said well you could always Flck off to New Caledonia and be looked after by the French.
I suggested to @IFocus that we could catch up at the BoatHouse.
It is under new management, I would no longer recommend it, unless you don't mind a bit of excitement. It has certainly livened up.

 

[SirRumpole]

Unfortunately that's the reality and (not referring to myself specifically) it deters the people who should be in parliament from going anywhere near the place.

I mean if you've got some existing viable career, anything at all no matter what it is, why would you swap it for politics? Answer = only if you're miserably failing in what you're doing now. And so we get a parliament filled with people who'd struggle to get a job otherwise.

Unfortunately, politics now is not a contest of ideas , its a Game of Thrones where winning is the only thing that matters.

 

[cynic]

As the divide between the "haves" and "have nots" grows wider, the fires of resentment become easier to stoke, thereby paving the way for punitive measures (in this example taxation of non existent income!).

Though I personally consider the assertions, proposals and overall demeanour of the following article to be logically flawed and morally bereft, I fear that such sentiments, as those expounded, could easily gain traction in the current climate:

https://theconversation.com/the-gov...ime-to-consider-taxing-the-family-home-262323

 

[PZ.]

Hopefully I'll be dead by the time that ever happens. They can tax me all they like after removing the royal salute from my gravestone.

 

[wayneL]

As the divide between the "haves" and "have nots" grows wider, the fires of resentment become easier to stoke, thereby paving the way for punitive measures (in this example taxation of non existent income!).

Though I personally consider the assertions, proposals and overall demeanour of the following article to be logically flawed and morally bereft, I fear that such sentiments, as those expounded, could easily gain traction in the current climate:

https://theconversation.com/the-gov...ime-to-consider-taxing-the-family-home-262323

Wowee!

That certainly fits into the current regime of taxing unrealised capital gains (which no doubt the grubs will extend over time), but "imputed income" of owner occupied housing?

What the frack?

 

[Bellcose]

It's just an academic thought bubble FFS. They publish these things all the time. They rarely get beyond that stage. It's more than likely the economic nerds at Treasury have already run the numbers many moons ago. The ABS had a paper on the methodology of net imputed rent nearly a decade ago.

Worry about it if it ever reaches draft legislation stage.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

It's just an academic thought bubble FFS. They publish these things all the time. They rarely get beyond that stage. It's more than likely the economic nerds at Treasury have already run the numbers many moons ago. The ABS had a paper on the methodology of net imputed rent nearly a decade ago.

Worry about it if it ever reaches draft legislation stage.

worry about the Budget ambush, when a date , and a time, is set in stone - CGT subject to tax from 8.30pm on 19 September 1985

 

[Smurf1976]

Though I personally consider the assertions, proposals and overall demeanour of the following article to be logically flawed and morally bereft, I fear that such sentiments, as those expounded, could easily gain traction in the current climate:

As I see it, this is the sort of "too smart" thinking that created the divide in the first place.

If there was a grand plan to bring back the Housing Commission and the CES for those in need of it, to shift the economy back toward productive business, to build infrastructure to support business and the community, to refocus education and so on then personally I wouldn't object to paying tax to fund it.

Paying tax to fund what amounts to a black hole with middlemen getting rich out of it is quite something else however.