Anzac Day 2023

[basilio]

There is other History on protests on ANZAC Day. This banner got a lot of people arrested in 1981

Women Against Rape in War

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[basilio]

Hecklers at dawn services ‘must face the full force of the law’, PM says​

The prime minister, Anthony Albanese, says hecklers who interrupted the Welcome to Country at Anzac Day dawn services in Melbourne and Perth “must face the full force of the law”.

“What occurred at Melbourne’s Shrine of Remembrance, and Kings Park in Perth, was a disgrace,” he says.

In Melbourne, a small group of people booed and yelled throughout the Welcome to Country delivered by Bunurong elder Uncle Mark Brown at the 5:30am service at the city’s Shrine of Remembrance. Others in the crowd shouted “Always was, always will be” and clapped and cheered over the top of the hecklers, who again booed and shouted as Victoria’s governor, Margaret Gardner, delivered an acknowledgment of country. In Perth, a heckler disrupted a welcome to country at the Kings Park dawn service, shouting obscenities.

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So what will "the full force of the law " look like ?
An opportunity for the defendants to declare Australian have lost their "Freedom of Speech " ?
An opportunity to declare , as per the Trump Pet Party that "We don't need a welcome to our own country". ?

I can't see what "law" has been broken here. Just the law of respect and decency which I can't remember being legislated.

 

[farmerge]

Hecklers at dawn services ‘must face the full force of the law’, PM says​

The prime minister, Anthony Albanese, says hecklers who interrupted the Welcome to Country at Anzac Day dawn services in Melbourne and Perth “must face the full force of the law”.

“What occurred at Melbourne’s Shrine of Remembrance, and Kings Park in Perth, was a disgrace,” he says.

In Melbourne, a small group of people booed and yelled throughout the Welcome to Country delivered by Bunurong elder Uncle Mark Brown at the 5:30am service at the city’s Shrine of Remembrance. Others in the crowd shouted “Always was, always will be” and clapped and cheered over the top of the hecklers, who again booed and shouted as Victoria’s governor, Margaret Gardner, delivered an acknowledgment of country. In Perth, a heckler disrupted a welcome to country at the Kings Park dawn service, shouting obscenities.

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So what will "the full force of the law " look like ?
An opportunity for the defendants to declare Australian have lost their "Freedom of Speech " ?
An opportunity to declare , as per the Trump Pet Party that "We don't need a welcome to our own country". ?

I can't see what "law" has been broken here. Just the law of respect and decency which I can't remember being legislated.

@basilio That may be the case that "no law has been broken" by these two incidents, but I am sure that I heard that a Nazi salute was also given.
I am just hoping that there is a long forgotten law that could be invoked against those that choose to disrupt on a very special and sombre occasion.
Because of the past these cretons do have the right to protest but do they consider at what cost it was achieved.
For them if they are charged and hopefully they will be, then I will not be shedding a tear for them, in any shape or form.

 

[IFocus]

I wonder if the neo-Nazis ever fought.


From the ABC

The Fighting Gunditjmara​

"What about the ANZACS?" shouted one of the protesters.

Presumably he wasn't thinking of the Aboriginal ANZACS, many of them from one of Uncle Mark's own mobs, the Gunditjmara.

They have earned the name "The Fighting Gunditjmara" due to their long history of service and sacrifice, including WWII hero Uncle Reg Saunders, the first Aboriginal commissioned officer, whose father had served at Gallipoli.

Despite historic regulations preventing some Indigenous people from enlisting, First Nations people have served in every major conflict since colonisation.

But upon their return, many veterans were not allowed in the RSL, had their land and children taken and felt excluded and forgotten.

Victoria's truth-telling commission, Yoorrook, has heard of ongoing anger in the Indigenous community about the denial of soldier settlement blocks to Aboriginal people who fought for Australia in the First and Second World Wars.

Enormous strides have been made in recent years to properly recognise the unique sacrifice of Black diggers, largely led by the advocacy of Indigenous veterans and historians.

In 2017, for the first time, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander veterans led the national ANZAC Day march.

It was a proud and emotional moment for black veterans and their families who had become accustomed to being down the back, never up front.

 

[SirRumpole]

There is other History on protests on ANZAC Day. This banner got a lot of people arrested in 1981

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Women Against Rape in War

www.cmag.com.au

You don't hear much from these people anymore.

I wonder why?

 

[farmerge]

You don't hear much from these people anymore.

I wonder why?

@SirRumpole Perhaps too close to the truth with that banner..

 

[wayneL]

@basilio That may be the case that "no law has been broken" by these two incidents, but I am sure that I heard that a Nazi salute was also given.
I am just hoping that there is a long forgotten law that could be invoked against those that choose to disrupt on a very special and sombre occasion.
Because of the past these cretons do have the right to protest but do they consider at what cost it was achieved.
For them if they are charged and hopefully they will be, then I will not be shedding a tear for them, in any shape or form.

This is a slippery slope to tyranny, Farmer. For once I agree with bas that no law has been broken and although distasteful and inappropriate considering the occasion, they have every right to their view that welcome to country as the very same venue was distasteful and inappropriate.

Be angry, call them out, collectively put them in Coventry or make them persona non grata, whatever; but do we really want to live in a country where those with unpopular opinions according to the ruling regime are arrested on some non-law made up on the fly?

This is the path to totalitarianism and a situation where almost any disagreement can result in arrest.

No-thank-you!!!!

 

[farmerge]

This is a slippery slope to tyranny, Farmer. For once I agree with bas that no law has been broken and although distasteful and inappropriate considering the occasion, they have every right to their view that welcome to country as the very same venue was distasteful and inappropriate.

Be angry, call them out, collectively put them in Coventry or make them persona non grata, whatever; but do we really want to live in a country where those with unpopular opinions according to the ruling regime are arrested on some non-law made up on the fly?

This is the path to totalitarianism and a situation where almost any disagreement can result in arrest.

No-thank-you!!!!

@wayneL Though you are probably correct Wayne,
I find this behavior on a very sacred day beyond disrespectful and bordering on cowardice.
I had several relatives, male and female serve during WW11 and fortunately they all survived to come back home in one piece each.
I don't think there would be any in attendance at the memorials cheering thes ar**holes on.