BLM spread caused Melbourne COVID-19 clusters

[wayneL]

Or maybe not. Misreported by the Australian?

"Victorian health officials have refuted claims there is a link between the Black Lives Matter protest and a coronavirus outbreak in Melbourne’s public housing towers.

The Australian reported on Tuesday authorities that two people who attended the protests more than a month ago were part of the cluster.
However, in a statement to 7NEWS.com.au, the Department of Health and Human Services said there was no evidence linking the two.

“We are aware of six confirmed cases who attended the Black Lives Matter protest. Currently there is no evidence to suggest they acquired the virus from the protest,” a spokesperson said."



https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/heal...test-as-victoria-records-more-cases-c-1166823

Whether they did or not is actually irrelevant and a matter of randomness.

The point is everybody else was behaving responsibly while these clowns were completely flouting the rules to have a petulant little foot stomping session.

The potential for spreading the virus was massively greater *with* the gutless acquiescence of the authorities.

 

[rederob]

Any chance you can post the full article ? Cheers.

The essence of this thread is a rehash of fake news.
It really needs to be closed down.

 

[Chronos-Plutus]

Black Lives Matter, but they will still protest to spread the virus, to potentially kill black people.

 

[macca]

Black Lives Matter, but they will still protest to spread the virus, to potentially kill black people.

The march in Sydney was postponed to allow for some country people to travel there to participate.

These people then returned to their homes, hopefully we don't get a sudden outbreak in a few country towns as it would be quite unexpected

 

[satanoperca]

Protests occurred across Australia.
What is your point?
Is there evidence these people spread COV19 to other protesters?
Is there evidence that these people were the original spreaders?
Is there evidence these people caused any further spread?
If you are going to resurrect old news, try adding some sense to whatever it is you think your are showing.

have you ever considered the idea of common sense?

We were in lockdown, I am all for protests, but when we are in lockdown due to a pandemic, I do not need to show/prove/provide evidence that freedom of speech is above all other things.

By your position, we can have 10K of people gathering, no problem, as there is no evidence that this would lead to the spread of the disease? YES/NO

For someone who is so smart @rederob you can be so dumb!

 

[rederob]

have you ever considered the idea of common sense?

We were in lockdown, I am all for protests, but when we are in lockdown due to a pandemic, I do not need to show/prove/provide evidence that freedom of speech is above all other things.

By your position, we can have 10K of people gathering, no problem, as there is no evidence that this would lead to the spread of the disease? YES/NO

For someone who is so smart @rederob you can be so dumb!

I don't create strawman arguments to win brownie points.
The OP has no legs. I have linked information that shows the claims lack merit.
On the other hand there is you.

 

[wayneL]

I don't create strawman arguments to win brownie points.
The OP has no legs. I have linked information that shows the claims lack merit.
On the other hand there is you.

From yesterday:

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...r/news-story/197ffe79f3e0044be2ee1495c5708364

Snip: Victorian health authorities have confirmed a link between two COVID-19 cases in people who attended the Black Lives Matter protest in Melbourne’s CBD just over a month ago, and the cluster of at least 242 cases in public housing towers in the city’s inner northwest.

 

[moXJO]

I don't create strawman arguments to win brownie points.
The OP has no legs. I have linked information that shows the claims lack merit.
On the other hand there is you.

Your claim was from last month.

 

[rederob]

Your claim was from last month.

From the outset I asked a number of questions and they have yet to be addressed.
Reprising an article that has been fact checked and shown to lack merit is not how you about making a case fo a thread.

 

[moXJO]

From the outset I asked a number of questions and they have yet to be addressed.
Reprising an article that has been fact checked and shown to lack merit is not how you about making a case fo a thread.

True.
I noticed another article today. I honestly don't think we will get a true picture due to the sensitivity of the group in question. However, it was unfortunate timing to hold a protest.

 

[basilio]

True.
I noticed another article today. I honestly don't think we will get a true picture due to the sensitivity of the group in question. However, it was unfortunate timing to hold a protest.

There were concerns at the time that holding the public rally would risk spreading COVID infections. Fair call.

The rally was held on June 6th. All evidence to date says that if there there were any infections arising from the rally they would surface within the next 2 weeks.

By June 22, 14 days after the BLM rally the DHHS daily report noted a total of 16 new cases . All but one were traced back to current outbreaks.

You can see the daily reports from the DHHS on the recent spread of the virus. There is nothing there to indicate increases in infections after the rally. This story is just a another "poison the well" project from the usual suspects.

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-update-victoria-22-june-2020











https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-update-victoria-22-june-2020

 

[spooly74]

Doubtful that the BLM didn't an impact in resurgence of the virus.
Think about it, you've been doing the right thing in quarantine, not seeing loved ones etc etc and then a 10,000 protest goes ahead with the nod from Government.
F**k that ... folks would've seen this as a green light to get out and about, too.
The Chart is damning.
Also, people don't just turn up to the protest location. They're meeting before and after for drinks, painting signs etc.

Interestingly though, the same resurgence hasn't been seen in Sydney? Perhaps the virus has gone through more of the population there.
Similarly with California & New York post protest.

 

[sptrawler]

Whether the outbreak was due to the march, or due to the private security guards at the hotel, it is a mess that someone needs to be ashamed for.
This will have put a lot of people into a world of pain, be it health related or financially related, it's a bloody disgrace all round.

 

[IFocus]

There were concerns at the time that holding the public rally would risk spreading COVID infections. Fair call.

The rally was held on June 6th. All evidence to date says that if there there were any infections arising from the rally they would surface within the next 2 weeks.

By June 22, 14 days after the BLM rally the DHHS daily report noted a total of 16 new cases . All but one were traced back to current outbreaks.

You can see the daily reports from the DHHS on the recent spread of the virus. There is nothing there to indicate increases in infections after the rally. This story is just a another "poison the well" project from the usual suspects.

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-update-victoria-22-june-2020



https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-update-victoria-22-june-2020

Agree it wasn't the right thing to do on all fronts timing wise and now its a great political football to be kicked around.

Nice distraction from system and people behaviour failures finger pointing rather than taking responsibility and fixing the current problems.

I have been a bit sunned by the continued reports out of NSW / Vic about the lack of compliance re social distancing etc, simple stuff to do really not hard yet failure to do it.

My local area here in WA it was full on from the get go (supermarkets being the exception at times) and by and large still the case even though we are virus free.

 

[sptrawler]

Agree it wasn't the right thing to do on all fronts timing wise and now its a great political football to be kicked around.

Nice distraction from system and people behaviour failures finger pointing rather than taking responsibility and fixing the current problems.

I have been a bit sunned by the continued reports out of NSW / Vic about the lack of compliance re social distancing etc, simple stuff to do really not hard yet failure to do it.

My local area here in WA it was full on from the get go (supermarkets being the exception at times) and by and large still the case even though we are virus free.

From what I've read on the internet, the Governments aren't getting much backlash over the outbreak, which is a change the media usually love to sensationalise bad news.

 

[IFocus]

From what I've read on the internet, the Governments aren't getting much backlash over the outbreak, which is a change the media usually love to sensationalise bad news.

I must admit starting to get Corona fatigue reading any news.

 

[rederob]

Interestingly though, the same resurgence hasn't been seen in Sydney?

On the contrary.

 

[sptrawler]

I must admit starting to get Corona fatigue reading any news.

That's why I don't watch any TV news, at least on the internet you can read and research at your own pace, rather than sit in front of the goggle box and have someone tell you what they feel like telling you.

 

[Smurf1976]

Whether the outbreak was due to the march, or due to the private security guards at the hotel, it is a mess that someone needs to be ashamed for.
This will have put a lot of people into a world of pain, be it health related or financially related, it's a bloody disgrace all round.

Regardless of what happened with virus transmission, the protests haven’t done the underlying cause much good.

Politics 101 - don’t get yourself associated with something bad and especially not something which impacts the day to day lives of ordinary people.

Whether they actually caused it is irrelevant in that context. Perception is what matters.

 

[rederob]

Regardless of what happened with virus transmission, the protests haven’t done the underlying cause much good.

They actually showed that wearing masks is an effective barrier to transmission.
These protests happened across the nation and all The Australian was able to muck rake over a month after the events was the fact that a few people who participated lived in a Victorian hotspot.