He has good effect on most people-he is entertaining.Whatever his thoughts or beliefs, he is allowed to have them and if others wish to listen to them so be it.
That is why Australia is the Country it is, because people can and do speak their minds, that is what people the World over like about Australians.
We are a weird bunch, when we criticise the very thing that sets us aside from other Countries. IMO
Really what happened to just saying, "yeh whatever mate, you're a goose".
No now we have to take them out and strip them and give them a public lashing, WTF has Australia become?
Anyway gotta go, this ships internet is slow and expensive.
Israel Folau - Breach of contract or right to free speech?
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I think the real joke's on those who take him seriously.
He's a guy who gets paid to play with a ball and who randomly makes a silly comments with a religious theme.
OK, whatever, it's not like he's running around lighting fires or shooting people. I don't agree with pretty much anything he says but he's easily ignored.
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I think the real joke's on those who take him seriously.
He's a guy who gets paid to play with a ball and who randomly makes a silly comments with a religious theme.
OK, whatever, it's not like he's running around lighting fires or shooting people. I don't agree with pretty much anything he says but he's easily ignored.
I disagree with taking Israel Folau lightly. We have hate laws because as a community we decided that denigrating whole groups of people created division, distrust and lead to violence - social/emotional/physical. I can't see why we should ignore a person doing this and particularly when they use the umbrella of relegion (Christian as well !) to spread such a message.
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Why does the left take Islam so lightly then?
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So let me see if I understand just one of the key elements being stated here:
Denigration of whole groups is divisive and unwelcome as it tends to lead to social emotional and physical violence.
Before I proceed, I feel the need to ask, have I correctly understood this first part of your post?
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Hence the fundraising campaign. 1 million dollars wasn't it ?
Heck, I'd spray fundamentalist god bothering faecal matter for that sort of money as well
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I see the point you are making but it seems a bit harsh for society to be singling out one individual.
Among many others, the following whole groups have been targeted at some point in the relatively recent past by politicians, government agencies or government itself, the media or others with a reasonable profile:
*People born at a certain time, particularly those born between 1945 and 1964 or after 1980.
*Illegal immigrants who arrived by boat (but strangely not those who arrive by plane).
*Men
*Avocado eaters
*Anyone with a lot of money
*Women
*Anyone who does not have a lot of money
*Public Servants
*Workers in certain occupations especially "blue collar" trades
*Shareholders
*Unemployed persons
*Retirees especially those aged under 65
All those and more have been "demonized" by some politician, government itself, government department, media or others in the relatively recent past but I don't see too many taking personal offence to it even where they strongly disagree with what's being said. Far more commonly they just think whoever said it is totally out of touch with reality and ought to stick to whatever they're good at or if there's a serious chance that some drastic thing is actually going to be done then they fight it via the political process.
Now I think Folau's an idiot yes and I don't even slightly agree with what he has to say, heck I was an advocate for gay law reform well before it was fashionable to support the cause and when homosexuality as such was still a crime, but I see no reason to silence him. Better to let him carry on, leave no doubt whatsoever in the mind of any thinking person that he's a fool, and win the argument passively without resorting to gagging anyone.
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Oh Wayne, poor Wayne, lucky we know that there are some great horses to save you.
So you post a link, to a post that states here is the transcript, no video, a transcript, well I call that fake, and more so that the author could have had conformational bias - In 2009 Rod moved on from a 12 year management career with Koorong. Then went on to study a degree through Tabor College Adelaide, graduating from there in 2013 with a Bachelor’s Degree in Ministry & Theology. You can read more of Rod’s work at his website.
Just another nut job.
So you post a link, to a post that states here is the transcript, no video, a transcript, well I call that fake, and more so that the author could have had conformational bias - In 2009 Rod moved on from a 12 year management career with Koorong. Then went on to study a degree through Tabor College Adelaide, graduating from there in 2013 with a Bachelor’s Degree in Ministry & Theology. You can read more of Rod’s work at his website.
Just another nut job.
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Whoa there Sapphire. The link is there, and I posted without comment, purely for brevity and interest.
I think you have jumped the shark on me there matey.
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Fair call, I might have, no disrespect intended.
Plus, you change how I think of horses and I will be always grateful to anyone who can change my thought process from negative to positive on anything in life.
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As Oscar Wilde once said
"there is only one thing worse than being talked about and that is not being talked about."
"there is only one thing worse than being talked about and that is not being talked about."
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I just read Rugby Australia has formally apologised and settled out of court with Folau, well I think that saved them the biggest ar$e whipping in history.lol
Absolute morons, someone's head should roll for the wholed sorry incident IMO.
Absolute morons, someone's head should roll for the wholed sorry incident IMO.
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Chairman's head is rolling.
They are in a bad way on many fronts not just Folau.
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But the post that started it all is still there for anyone to read.
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Meanwhile, "Islamophobia" is in the process of being criminalised.
Not Christophobia
Not Sihkophobia
Not Buddhaphobia
Not Rastaphobia
Not Shintophobia
Not Wiccanphobia
Not even Coulrophobia (sic?)
Think about that.
Why?
Not Christophobia
Not Sihkophobia
Not Buddhaphobia
Not Rastaphobia
Not Shintophobia
Not Wiccanphobia
Not even Coulrophobia (sic?)
Think about that.
Why?
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Israel is just doing the Christian thing and being humble, RA are the ones with egg all over their faces and paying out big money I bet.
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Agree, we will never know the truth as both parties sold out to the conviction through a confidentiality clause.
So both parties are sell outs to their beliefs (or voiced beliefs, as the truth is it is all about a dollar which brings back the reason for the fight or conflict in the first place, show me the $$$$) of what is right or wrong
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Sorry but I live on planet earth, he was doing nothing about the Christian thing, $14m is hardly that.
