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kennas said:
OK, I'll add that.

They PROMOTE confusion and ignorance. (from metric)

So, how much do we have to pay to join this web site metric?
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its free mate...lol

i suspect a few asf members are also members there....



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You all need to see the light of the true Creator!

I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It was He who created all that we see and all that we feel. We feel strongly that the overwhelming scientific evidence pointing towards evolutionary processes is nothing but a coincidence, put in place by Him.

Some find that hard to believe, so it may be helpful to tell you a little more about our beliefs. We have evidence that a Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe. None of us, of course, were around to see it, but we have written accounts of it. We have several lengthy volumes explaining all details of His power. Also, you may be surprised to hear that there are over 10 million of us, and growing. We tend to be very secretive, as many people claim our beliefs are not substantiated by observable evidence. What these people don’t understand is that He built the world to make us think the earth is older than it really is. For example, a scientist may perform a carbon-dating process on an artifact. He finds that approximately 75% of the Carbon-14 has decayed by electron emission to Nitrogen-14, and infers that this artifact is approximately 10,000 years old, as the half-life of Carbon-14 appears to be 5,730 years. But what our scientist does not realize is that every time he makes a measurement, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is there changing the results with His Noodly Appendage. We have numerous texts that describe in detail how this can be possible and the reasons why He does this. He is of course invisible and can pass through normal matter with ease.

It is absolutely imperative that they realize that observable evidence is at the discretion of a Flying Spaghetti Monster. Furthermore, it is disrespectful to teach our beliefs without wearing His chosen outfit, which of course is full pirate regalia. I cannot stress the importance of this enough, and unfortunately cannot describe in detail why this must be done as I fear this letter is already becoming too long. The concise explanation is that He becomes angry if we don’t.

You may be interested to know that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of Pirates since the 1800s. For your interest, I have included a graph of the approximate number of pirates versus the average global temperature over the last 200 years. As you can see, there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature.



In conclusion, thank you for taking the time to hear our views and beliefs.

P.S. I have included an artistic drawing of Him creating a mountain, trees, and a midget. Remember, we are all His creatures.

 
Thanks Sith1s,

So, why does the Flying Spaghetti Monster exist?

That is the question.

He does exist? Or, is he created by someone else? Or what?

 
He exists and we have numerous texts proving that he exists!

Infact he's watching over us all.

I'm sure you as have I have had many times when you've had a close call where he has influenced the outcome with His Noodley Appendages.
 
But to answer your question logically..

He exists simply because we believe he does. Isn't that the same regardless of chosen said diety. Regardless of who or what you believe in and what texts, books, "proof or evidence" you may have.

I think it just comes down to that.

Now how the said diety is created or comes into fruition, there's another debate. I mean who would own up to founding Scientology or Christianity and be able to have a logical, reasonable discussion without the fanatical talk.

Oh you do not support our beliefs, therefore you're a non believer.

I hope i'm making sence as i feel i'm going around in circles.
 
Sith1s said:
But to answer your question logically..

He exists simply because we believe he does. Isn't that the same regardless of chosen said diety. Regardless of who or what you believe in and what texts, books, "proof or evidence" you may have.
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I'm trying to get a handle on this to condense it into a statement.

Please help me.

He exists because we believe he does?

Is this some sort of deep emotional/psychological/spiritual enlightenment experience? Like being born again?

But, why?
 
He exists because we believe he does?
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I think that somes it up in one line.

What is a diety without anyone to worship or follow them?

Thoughts?
 
Sith1s said:
I think that somes it up in one line.

What is a diety without anyone to worship or follow them?

Thoughts?
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I'm confused.

Either, you're saying he created us to worship Him.

or,

We created Him in our own image.


I saw a great quote about God and who he was recently.

It said,

'If we were triangles, then God would be eminently triangular'...


Still, off topic a bit.
 
I'm more inclined to go with the latter of the two. That we created him in our own image/imagination.

I mean there are so many faiths out there how can we all be right?

Just my opinion
 
Sith1s said:
I mean there are so many faiths out there how can we all be right?

Just my opinion
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Nice point.

Can we count the ways?

There are too many existing dieties to list right now.

Or, are they all the one and the same?


They might be, except for blind dogmatic faith crippling us.


Still off topic.
 
Or, are they all the one and the same?


They might be, except for blind dogmatic faith crippling us.
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Exactly!

They probably are. (Getting extremely off topic now ) I mean take Christianity for example. There are probably at least 12 different variations. (Methodist, Catholic, Protestant ect)

Well if you want my personal opinion it's not a matter who or what your faith is, I think it's just the fact you have faith...

I mean you could believe that a Flying Spagetti Monster created the world!
 
Do you see a common denominator drawing all the 'faiths' together?

This is probably going to add quite some weight to the 'why' factor of religion.

You say 'faith', but that's pretty vague. What is it, and why?


(sidebar: 12 different Christian faiths? Could be in the hundreds by now....)
 
Good question!

Will have to put some thought into it and will post later. (At work at the moment)

Will post later this arvo, but enjoying the discussion!
 
dhukka said:
This is the kind of nonsense that separates religious zealots from regular rational people.
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How exactly does that make me a religious zealot? Because I believe that a practically infinite universe, if created by a preexisting being, must have been created by a being of unimaginable power. How does that make me a zealot?

I'm a perfectly rational regular person - I just happen to believe in one God.
 
If you dont have 'faith' you dont have much...
Faith equals belief in many things.....even in yourself..

Do you always need proof for everything you believe?

Religion/Spirituality - science - medical - they all have their place..
I dont see everything so black and white as what you do...
 

Here's my reply (after much thought)

What my definition of faith is... A belief in someone/something that ultimately has a greater plan for us & that realistically we have no control over our own destiny. I mean how often have you heard that we are all part of God's plan. Or God has a plan.

Why we have faith?
Why else but to explain things that we cannot logically explain? Some questions that come to mind are... Why am I here? What is my purpose? Why did I survive that horrible car accident (it must have been an act of God)

But what is the common thing that draws them all together... Haven't figured that one out yet.

What do you think Kennas?
 

Tink what I think we're getting at is not the proof of what you believe in, but why do people believe.
 
Sith1s said:
Tink what I think we're getting at is not the proof of what you believe in, but why do people believe.
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Mate I've read your above posts.

Many years ago I was travelling through India and as the servants were tired from pushing the car, stopped beside a holy man's cave.

As they prepared the tent and meal, I asked him,

What is the secret of life?

And he said Spaghetti.

So it must be true.

gg
 
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