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Can some one post a calorie chart...u know 1 carrot = 60 calories sorta thing.
 
Lost 18 kilos in 2 months (8 weeks) following Tony Ferguson 9 months ago ... you do the shake and soup thing for breakfast and lunch, and fruit in between ... then follow a recipe book for meals at night ... abit of cooking time is required for the meals, because cutting up a lot of veges etc , although some are quite easy to prepare.

I did the 'weekly weigh in' at the stores or chemist, like Biggest Loser, which was quite a motivation for me at the time.

They have a free forum, which is also quite inspirational.

Basically you cut out carbs, so your body goes into ketosis.

And cut out alcohol during the time (I regularly ... whoops, that sounds bad, drink low carb beer now), and took multivitamins and fibre during that time.

I found the program easy to follow, some people apparently find it hard.

However did drop from 88 to 70 kilos.

Was originally motivated after doing the GCC (Global Corporate Challenge) where they measure your waist etc before giving you a pedometer. My waist then was over 100 cm, which is not good.

Anyhow, have kept the weight off now for 9 months, and all I basically do now is avoid too much carbs (don't eat massive amount of only fries, noodles etc type meals), and eat a lot more salads now than every use to.

I am not that big on exercise, except walking, I always walk 10000 steps a day, and joined,

http://10000steps.org.au/

so have a pedometer strapped to me at almost all times.

I also took up surfing 1 year ago, which I do every weekend for about 2 hours ... don't do any other exercise.

I went to a free session with a Private Health ensurer, that had a nutritionist speak for 45 mins, her main advice was for a meal, 1/4 plate protein, 1/4 plate carbs, 1/2 veges, and eat a nut bar, like Be Natural in the afternoon. For breakfast, bake beans or eggs on toast (Burgen) is good.
 
weird said:
I am not that big on exercise, except walking, I always walk 10000 steps a day, and joined,
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lol.
I don't know how you lose weight if you don't exercise. Just seems illogical to me.
As I said, losing weight is SIMPLE ...

calories in vs. calories out

if you take in a lot of calories, you have to burn it off some how. If you don't use up the calories then ... you gain weight.

so if you take in 1000 calories the only way you can really burn it quick enough is to exercise it all off ...

now you can choose what sort of calories; protein, fat, or carbs.
if you want to burn fat predominantly, then i suggest to eat more healty proteins and add some healthy carbs, like fruit and veggies, and cut out the fat. Now if you want to get more in depth and detailed, there are certain times of the day when you eat or workout where you will burn more fat than protein/carbs etc etc ... but we'll save that for another discussion.

Simple.

"calories in, calories out"


(note: Simple does not mean easy, quite hard work actually. But nobody said life was fair)
 
waza1960 said:
French approach to food which is not to eat junk food but only eat quality food which I really enjoy.
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That's a really good point, waza. Sometimes we eat too much because we simply don't find what we're eating enjoyable and satisfying.

But if you plan a meal with quality ingredients, say some smoked salmon on avocado slices, preceding scallops poached in wine which is then reduced with fresh cream into a sauce, accompanied by a large tossed salad, followed by a perfect mango, then one good quality chocolate with coffee, you'll feel the sense of pleasure that comes from carefully selected and cooked food, as distinct to a great plateful of the ubiquitous spaghetti bolognese which must surely be the most disgusting stuff to ever be invented.

Imo you can have small amounts of e.g. cream or chocolate which offer maximum eating pleasure. If your way of eating (I refuse to say 'diet') regularly offers small treats that prevents the sense of deprivation which causes so many people to take to the frig in a major binge of overeating.
 

I knew I was doing something wrong, must be great at your place.
 

You're right ... losing weight is simple,and is simple maths.

As you said calories in , calories out ... and if you work all day on a building site for 8 hours, or go to the gym 3-6 times a week, for 1 - 2 hours ... then the exercise thing may work in your favour ...

However start throwing in normal life things such as looking after kids, working in a job that may require 10-12 hours a day, including the former, or other activities such as 1 to 2 hour travel each way to work ... it may be easier to focus on the 'calorie in' factor ... don't wish to put personal trainers out of business ... although won't for those with time availability, but honestly believe for 'weight loss', that it is probably more practical to focus on diet ... that is, what and how much you eat, and mostly it is still keeping you satisfied on a hunger level, particularly living in this day and age of a sedentary lifestyle, particularly with time pressures on modern parents.

Walking is an activity which is available to all, pushing a stroller around the park or block, or taking the stairs instead of the lift, getting off one extra station or bus stop before work and home , or going for a stroll at lunch.
 
weird said:
Walking is an activity which is available to all, pushing a stroller around the park or block, or taking the stairs instead of the lift, getting off one extra station or bus stop before work and home , or going for a stroll at lunch.
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Walk? Mate ... you'll burn more calories running ... why walk when you can run?? Save time aswell ...

On a serious note.

Look, I'm fairly young. I admit, having kids are hard work. But you chose to have kids. So that means you have to make sacrifices there.

As I like to say to myself;

"If it's important to you, you make the time" ... (and money).
 

Understand what your saying, I just don't like running (even at the age of 36), I have a short muscular build, so was always a great sprinter, but not a long distance runner, also all the other activities I did as a kid has finally caught up and killed my knees, I don't wish to run if I don't need too ... I prefer swimming or cycling ... surfing (which if you head to the beach has all ages too) has a huge swimming aspect to it which I enjoy. Walking is good because almost anyone at any age finds it a very possible activity to do more of.

About kids, it was an example of what the majority of people will have as an additional 'natural' pressure in their life ... and this is a great thing, and once you speak to happy or even unhappy couples that have kids, this one aspect gives more meaning to their life than almost anything else, but that is for a completely different thread and not about weight loss, and doesn't pose much relevance in continuing discussing that, except people are becoming more time poor with other society pressures.

Anyhow, back more to relevant discussion, I had a craving for Oporto burger last week, and as usual they push you to the 'deal', drink and fries, I basically said I don't won't fries, and was happy to hear they offered a 'salad' alternative to the fries. This is very cool ... as alot of western meals , have this, have fries crap with everything .... anyhow, my sugestion, apart from my original post to this thread, is drop the fries, eat more salad.
 

Mate ... Oporto's is processed chicken. That stuff will kill ya.
Try Nando's or go to Woolies and get some real chicken breast, cook it up before you go to work, and then eat it at work. More natural and high quality protein that way, and cheaper if you do it yourself. You got a wife ... tell her to do it if you're time poor.

 
we moved here to the coast some 14 weeks ago. i changed my lifestyle somewhat and included more exercise, and less alcohol...and lost 6 kg in in 6 weeks in the process.

8 weeks ago i started body trim. add another 9kg in 8 weeks, and you come up with the 16kg ive lost in the 14 weeks weve been here.

i have 10kg to go, and i will be of the weight i was when i played league 20 years ago....and i carried very little fat back then.

body trim is the easiest weight loss eating plan ive followed. it makes sense, is based on observation and science, and it works!! you will never feel hungry, you will have more energy, and you WILL lose weight!

BT is a low carb diet. it makes your body work harder for its carbs. your body ends up going to its reserves for carbs, which equals fat loss.

as well as steak, fish, chicken, etc, i include tofu, beans, sushimi, and eggs as a protien source. no carrots, pumpkin, or carbs; potato, rice, pasta, bread, etc.

meals are mostly protien and salad or veges. you have 1 day per week where anything goes. chocolate, ice cream, mashed spuds etc, all ok. but the next day is protien only. its called zig zag, and it tricks your body into releasing fat stores instead of going into famine mode, and saving fat.

BT is about $200 for the cd's, books, etc.

there is no better investment, than to invest in yourself...

edit. and just reading above. on BT, walking is the only exercise. heavy exercise BUILDS muscle, gains weight. so if you are trying to SLIM down and LOSE weight, follow the programme. unless you want to become the worlds greatest athlete, and want to follow an athletes workout schedule, walking is all you need to do to lose weight quickly....i have!! 10000 steps a day is the goal.
 
matty2.0 said:
lol.
I don't know how you lose weight if you don't exercise. Just seems illogical to me.
As I said, losing weight is SIMPLE ...
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And I can say in my experience that losing weight isnt simple. Nor is it exercise dependent. I had been going to the gym for three sessions of high exercise a week for maybe four years. And never having been a big eater, I was astounded to find I could not budge the six extra kilos I had put on after surgery about five years ago.

Then, three days of the lemon detox diet, and changing the type of food I eat (while never a big carb eater as I have slight gluten intolerance) I ate more fresh vegetables and slightly reduced the size of my evening meal, dropped the wine in favour of gin and soda, and STOPPED the exercise, the six kilos came off within a couple of weeks. Five months later, including holidays, they have stayed off. And I havent returned to the same gym routine either.

I do admit I am hypothyroid (basically have no thyroid function at all due to autoimmune disease) but not a typical one in that I am not, other than this 6 now-lost kilos, overweight. Maybe that changes the equation.

I am not a believer in running either. Might lose the weight a bit faster but can create other problems in later years. Walking is a much better option for exercise.

I just dont buy foods that will tempt me and arent good for me. Chocolate is my downfall, I find if I buy very good quality, like Haighs chocolate, or Lindt for you poor sods who dont have Haighs, then 1 piece is satisfying and I dont crave more. Although one poor Lindt Easter Bunny got eaten in 1 hit on Sunday night. Oh well.....
 



Hi Mr Burns

I am a competitive bodybuilder if you want any tips for extreme fat loss give me a yell it's a passion of mine and i like helping people with it just for proof you can check my photos

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=619617004&ref=profile&nctrct=1239668752640
 

Thanks Pappon, I'm getting mentally prepared to go cold turkey, the kincella way, this is making me mad and I'm not gunna to take it anymore !!!

Bought rockmelon this morning.

I'l keep you informed of any progress.
 
good onya burnsie....and remember to drink the water instead of a meal...it does work...not the head or thoughts, the stomach might say it needs a snack...so give it some water and its happy
and what are you doing about the boredom ???
where is the closest driving range for you to get in some practice ?
when I lived out in the bush at Mt Waverly..I used to go to the Knox driving range, had lessons at Riversdale, then at Box Hill....later decided I did not have enough time to play golf....
so took up tennis
 
MrBurns said:
Thanks Pappon, I'm getting mentally prepared to go cold turkey, the kincella way, this is making me mad and I'm not gunna to take it anymore !!!

Bought rockmelon this morning.

I'l keep you informed of any progress.
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Try to keep the starchy carbs as minimal as possible (hopefully none) at night that's the best thing i could offer. To many carbs blunts the bodys release of HGH (human growth hormone, hollywood stars love it cause it makes you look younger and burns fat very well) at night, hgh uses body fat very efficiently as a fuel source so blunting it at night is going to hampen fat loss efforts.

Powerwalk in the morning(30-45mins) with a black coffee, the caffiene will mobilise fatty acids as fuel and send it into your bloodstream for use, hence you burn fat quicker
 


Driving range at Bulleen but the balls there are crap, rather go to La Trobe but it's a fair bit further, you can hit off grass there if you like so thats good.
Freeway Golf Bulleen will have a new range in by the end of the year, automatic ball popup and everything so looking forward to that.

Had a colonoscopy a few weeks ago, first time, everything ok, but the preparation was not eating the day before , I got through ok, glass of water every hour, so if I can do it then I should be able to do it any time I choose, ........as I said mind over matter.

Thanks for the support
 

and thanks for that too
 
Mr Burns...
I assume you are a moderate person, and will only eat the quarter of melon at a meal...not the whole thing....don't want you to dehydrate too quickly...

about the water...I use one glass instead of the meal....and how much fluid, well count the alcohol, coffee or teas in the total fluid count...I dont drink more than 2-3 glasses of water a day...as I have all the other fluids above.
so please dont drink lots of water....or too many fluids

its ironic...drinking the water to save eating all the fat and calories, then the melon will flush the water/liquids out of your system....

there is a limit on how much water one can drink a day...a women in the UK recently went on a water diet...she drank 8 litres in one day and was dead the next....
just 8 glasses , even that is questionable....would be the maximum...depends on your current weight

heres a link..woman drank 6 litres in 3 hours and died...and more infor on how much to drink

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=strange-but-true-drinking-too-much-water-can-kill
 

I never knew that about melon, see how I go.

Years ago I followed a Chi book that had a section on cleansing, drank, cant remember how much, water in the morning, couple of litres I think, or more, gee does THAT clear you out, if ever you have problems there try that but dont leave the house for a while.
 
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