Wysiwyg
Everyone wants money
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Capitalism has wealth for those that take advantage of it. The rest of us help make it work. Filing for bankruptcy is a way out if things go wrong and American Presidency is a reward. How many people do you think he hurt along the way? You will never right all the injustices in the world and if there is a financial payoff people will turn a blind eye. It is ALL about money.Unfortunately it worked so well over there our own captains are emulating the worst aspects of it in their attempt to let freedom reign for those with cash and slavery for those who are too lazy or too far from power and privileged to enjoy all them user-pay where it's obvious, and payers can't get "hand outs" when they most needed it.
That can work two ways in Aust. It can be an incentive for people with low self health habits to look after themselves. For those that do care for their health it can be a real annoyance especially when one has payed for example $1500/year insurance (medicare) and still have to fork out on top of that albeit with a percentage reimbursement for some services.healthcare can bankrupt you,
That can work two ways in Aust. It can be an incentive for people with low self health habits to look after themselves. For those that do care for their health it can be a real annoyance especially when one has payed for example $1500/year insurance (medicare) and still have to fork out on top of that albeit with a percentage reimbursement for some services.
Capitalism has wealth for those that take advantage of it. The rest of us help make it work. Filing for bankruptcy is a way out if things go wrong and American Presidency is a reward. How many people do you think he hurt along the way? You will never right all the injustices in the world and if there is a financial payoff people will turn a blind eye. It is ALL about money.
Yes I agree but people abuse the free stuff. What about the overpayment of 4 billion dollars to welfare recipients. That 4 billion is probably conservative since the money missing is only what they know of. People rip the system. It's a fact. It's the lucky country mentality where I do the work and you enjoy a good life.Some things are better if they're socialised. And that's not because it's some ideology bs... we live in a society, where we can we ought to socialise a few things, take care of a few other people.
Yes I agree but people abuse the free stuff. What about the overpayment of 4 billion dollars to welfare recipients. That 4 billion is probably conservative since the money missing is only what they know of. People rip the system. It's a fact. It's the lucky country mentality where I do the work and you enjoy a good life.
Yes I agree but people abuse the free stuff. What about the overpayment of 4 billion dollars to welfare recipients. That 4 billion is probably conservative since the money missing is only what they know of. People rip the system. It's a fact. It's the lucky country mentality where I do the work and you enjoy a good life.
All people are corrupt.
It is human nature.
Is has been the same of human history.
Only the shades change
Pensioners with $$$$+ exempt houses
Multinationals avoiding taxes
Taxes supporting bailouts
CEO's,Lawyers and Doctors pay packets
People doing cash jobs
One just chooses the level they are comfortable with.
Communication would be confusing with out definitions and I do get your point but money is at the core. Be that the dole bludging welfare cheat or a billion dollar Funds ManagerPeople are self-interested, not really corrupt.
Way I defined it, corruption are self-interested behaviour done when you are entrusted with responsibilities other than your self-interests.
corrupt
kəˈrʌpt/
adjective
- 1.
having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain.
People are self-interested, not really corrupt.
Way I defined it, corruption are self-interested behaviour done when you are entrusted with responsibilities other than your self-interests. Hence, politicians being public servants, being leaders of the state and head of the country... they ought to abandon their self-interests and use that office to advance the interests of the nation, not their own. To do otherwise is corruption, legal or otherwise.
Or take CEOs... their job description is to advance shareholders interests. If they start to play nice and go all sweet on hippies and the community at the expense of shareholders, they're corrupt. Hence, capitalism where you pass costs on to others and take the bottom line as the last measure is awesome.
Now... this is why it's being driven into the dumb plebs of Western democracies that all these nice socialism stuff are all bad for them. Welfare is bad because they're only for druggies and Muslims and poor people; who not only use it to live in luxury but cheats it. So why welfare? Get that old granny back to work and that kid idling around to do a few jobs since one ain't going to pay his way to a mortgage.
Communication would be confusing with out definitions and I do get your point but money is at the core. Be that the dole bludging welfare cheat or a billion dollar Funds Manager
A rose by any other name will still smell as sweetly.
Corrupt, self interest, gaming the system, surplus.
It just describes people gaming the system for their own game at the expense of the honest people, who just go about their own business.
Not thinking about loopholes or how to get as much money as they can from the government or the organisation they represent. At the expense of others.
It reminds me of a study on monkeys bodies where the alpha male was healthy and had a strong bone structure and the monkeys lower down the chain had more brittle bones and unhealthy organs.
We are still the same but getting there, hopefully the tide of progress continues to raise all boats, even at different rates.
You just have the accept that people are corrupt and do the best you can.
Not really.
Self-interested people can be convinced to do what is good for both themselves and others; corrupt people do things that enriches themselves alone, leaving the costs for someone else to pick up.
Say we're not psychotic but are self-interested... As long as we're not being screwed over, other people being helped or living in health and safety... that's all good. We might even find it to our own personal benefit that the kids across the streets are educated, have a good future ahead, are not sick and be looked after... all because if that bastard were not in school, he might be out there pushing drugs and breaking into houses like ours. So we're willing to have some of our tax dollars helping the other guy out.
If we're psychotic, i.e. corrupt... we not only want everything, but even if there are things we don't really want or need... we still want it anyway and do not want other "less deserving" parasites to have it. Why? Does it do us any harm? Nope... so why do we care that people have some welfare, widows and orphans not having a trust fund ought to get off their behinds and head to the coal mine.
People who does that for kicks aren't normal.
Does more tax and welfare cheques into our corporations make any difference to our lifestyle and millions already at the bank?
so why do we care that people have some welfare,
I don't have millions in the bank. If you don't care about your millions then give me some money.
Yes High personal income tax burdens
Yes Deficit levies, if we keep going on or economic flow on effects
yes opportunity cost of the funds being used in beneficial activities
yes Wasteful bureaucracy pushing paper around, instead of meaningful production
Every person is not immune from the greed at some point.
It is not some people, it is major wroughting of people who do not need it.
Have you seen Australia's expenditure on welfare??
As I've said over the years, if the country does not spend its taxpayers cache on welfare for the people, then what is it supposed to spent it on?
If there are more job seekers than jobs then people need welfare as long as they are willing to accept and keep a job when it's offered.
We don't need to offer middle class welfare like negative gearing, family tax benefits and superannuation concessions to people who don't need it.
I'm with you a bit on corporate welfare if it's to help our industry compete on a level playing field ie to offset subsidies that other countries give to their farmers/industries etc.
There is good and bad welfare . Unfortunately we are letting too many people into the country who will inevitably end up on welfare.
Welfare for corporations or for the Sheiks around Bankstown and Lakemba?
As I've said over the years, if the country does not spend its taxpayers cache on welfare for the people, then what is it supposed to spent it on?
So I don't really mind corporate welfare either - corporations are people too. Just make sure that those welfare cheques pays a dividend. i.e. if the likes of BHPs were to get concessions, maybe it's only fair that they bloody pay a fair share of the earnings they mined. Not have loopholes where they make less profit (hence less tax) by selling it to their subsidiary (in another low taxed foreign country) which then jacked the profit up on the same cheap stuff as it transit to China and other suckers.
If you think about it, we're being fed bs so that we'll want things that will eventually screw us. Unless we're heir to some great fortune, or just big enough that we'll never ever need to worry about money... the idea that we're to pay our taxes but expect nothing in return... how did we ever really buy into that kind of rubbish?
Oh yea, the gov't cut our taxes by a pip, then they take it back again through privatisation of all public monopolies. Take it back when our kids, our relatives kids and ourselves needing to pay for everything luxurious like healthcare and proper education and training.
That and of course whistling that all these welfare are for the lazy, coloured, cheats... That it's for everyone else but "us" - the good guys who don't want anything from the gov't.
It's like some jackass were to tell us, after we've paid them our money, that ey... they can't really provide us anything in return because come on... Muslims are taking over man. But here's two bucks in return. Come again next year.
Take it easy mate
Your gonna have a heart attack :s
I do not endorse your views of racism.
I think I have said enough.
Do not want to fuel the fire.
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