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The World is on the brink!


With the arsenals that's out there, all that stands between a Nuclear Winter is a rouge general with access to the red button.

Saw it in Stanley Kubrick's Dr Strangelove. Where Jack Ripper thought to shut his base, send a wing of B-52s into Russia and then inform the president he better get ready to follow through with all they got else the Soviets will retaliate and America is all doomed.

In case we think it's just a movie... Have heard that in real life there's at least 4 instances of the world about to go to heck due to wrong/malfunction signals or intentional provocation where, thank all gods, there happen to be a clearer head at the moment to stop it going nuclear.
 
The next WW might have already started with the proxy war going on in the Middle East between the West and Russia but it's so complicated with Islamic State that it could go anywhere.

Now China and Russia are doing joint exercises while the US, Japan, Sth Korea and allies are training together around the East and South China Sea...

Then, Russia might just tip everyone over the edge with their encroachments into old Russian Empire territory in the Baltics. Already pushed the boundaries in the Ukraine and got away with it, just. If the US had a more Hawkish leadership at the time, who knows.

What's next:

http://www.news.com.au/world/europe...t/news-story/aabc3af37bc0630d1636ac5a0435ac6a
 

Trump leadership might nullify Russia/US tensions (although he is back flipping on promises)

US / China will be the one to watch. If US puts tariffs on trade with china, it may start the slide. Asia is probably more volatile then we would like to admit.
 
I drank with a lot of US generals and high rankings back in the 90's. Talk about some war thirsty attitudes. Everyone had an interesting story though
 
I drank with a lot of US generals and high rankings back in the 90's. Talk about some war thirsty attitudes. Everyone had an interesting story though

The most disturbing I had whispered in my ear was by a Jewish fella who insisted his mates in Israel had an itchy finger on the button during the second gulf war. No telling how close that came.
 
The most disturbing I had whispered in my ear was by a Jewish fella who insisted his mates in Israel had an itchy finger on the button during the second gulf war. No telling how close that came.

Don't they have itchy fingers all day, everyday?

They took out a few Iranian nuclear scientists; then took out Iran's IT system... all the egg an Iranian response so that the US would go in, take out the Mullahs and keep the entire region "peaceful" for itchy fingers and lawn mowing.
 
I drank with a lot of US generals and high rankings back in the 90's. Talk about some war thirsty attitudes. Everyone had an interesting story though

Servants get to drink at the adult table?

Saw a John Pilger doco where he said US high rankers consider Australian their... what's the word for Indian coolies. Is that true?

You know how we like to believe we're their "partner", we're not really are we?
 
The word is Satrap. A lot of the Roman Satraps didn't fair too well.
 
In WW11 we were UKs a**wipes, it was only that an Aussie general ordered troops home and then to PNG that we were not invaded.

The UK could not have cared less about us colonials, which is why we should be a republic IMO

I imagine the USA would only help us if it suited them to fight the war on our soil rather than theirs. They would send over some hardware though, they have plenty to spare and would love to test it in real conditions on real people so it could report back.

They have lots of drones that need further testing

In spite of all this, I do think we need Allies and the USA is probably the best fit to our beliefs and lifestyle.
 
In spite of all this, I do think we need Allies and the USA is probably the best fit to our beliefs and lifestyle.

Either that or develop our own nuclear deterrent so we don't have to worry about people like Trump. If Israel can do it I don't see why we can't. I think Japan will probably do it as well so maybe we can form a strategic alliance with them.
 
They love us, but- yeah we are viewed as the token effort. We would joke that our navy consisted of a tugboat with 3 guys standing on deck hurling bad language at the enemy.
Their military would defend us all day everyday. The politicians would leave us to rot
 

More love than Mother Britannia during WW2 then?

I like Paul Keating's view than Howard's on the relationship. Any alliance is a good thing, but too much reliance on that great protector and we'd be screwed the moment they're busy elsewhere. We might be up a creek on that canoe with no paddle.

 
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Either that or develop our own nuclear deterrent so we don't have to worry about people like Trump. If Israel can do it I don't see why we can't. I think Japan will probably do it as well so maybe we can form a strategic alliance with them.

Why not ey. We already got the nuclear test sites the Brits used in the 60s or whenever it was.

Japan is pretty much a colony of the US. Same with S.Korea and Australia.

Sure it's call a partnership and an alliance, but the way it's structured... well we're the luckier kind of colonies but one nonetheless.

Japan, so I heard, has been trying to repeal American influence and control. The PM that goes too far astray tend to get replace real smart... but efforts are being made by the Japs though. An example seems to be its push to nationalised those few rocks on the East China Sea. That give it excuse to ramp up its military. Though that could be with the approval of the US ally but yea, could go either way depends how to coin land.

Be hard for Japan to do much without invading some place... its fuel supplies, and practically most of its supplies, are at the mercy of those who control the high seas. That was part of the US grand strategy after WW2 - that Japan must not be the technological and economic hub of Asia - else it would mean Japan have practically won its war objectives anyway, and we can't have that.
 
Things turning nasty:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-worst-ever-meltdown-as-bull-market-shows-age

Global Bonds Suffer Worst Monthly Meltdown as $1.7 Trillion Lost
Garfield Clinton Reynolds and Wes Goodman
November 30, 2016 — 10:16 PM EST
The 30-year-old bull market in bonds looks to be ending with a bang.

And back home, housing approvals down 24% the last 12 months. Combine that with growing unemployment from manufacturing and mining then the loss of jobs coming in the building industry will spell big issues for all of us.

Ha haaaarr, but we have Turnbull's "jobs and Growth x 100" and allowing tax breaks to the wealthy, so where's the problem Ralf
 
"where there's smoke there's fire" I have little doubt in spite of the source that there is a lot of truth here:


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...ins-only-target-country-natos-nuclear-weapons
 
"where there's smoke there's fire" I have little doubt in spite of the source that there is a lot of truth here:



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...ins-only-target-country-natos-nuclear-weapons

Why are these psychos playing with our world like that?

NATO has been war gaming in Poland or just West of the Ukraine earlier this year. The war in the Ukraine is still going on right? Just we haven't heard, like Yemen.

If you're Russia, what would you do. Just let a superpower and its allies move right next door? You'd want some buffer room; want some extra few minutes of warning... you would never allow your potential worst enemy to practise and gear up right next door. I mean, Stalin permit that in WW2 and look what Hitler did.


You probably heard that Trump's call to Taiwan wasn't accidental. It was planned and thought about for a couple weeks.

So there's a bunch of wars in the ME. Libya is still being blown the bits. Egypt is now cool since the US put a more understanding guy in charge. Somalia just got underway... there's planning for war in Eastern Europe for "defence" against Russian aggression

... and the president-elect thought to start screwing around with China while all these are happening.

Divde to conquer does not mean divide the world into different fronts and take on all of it at once, right?
 
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