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What I have found is, it doesn't matter which party is in, for all those workers cheering them on there will be just as many workers complaining about them.
Those that vote Labour, will boo the Coalition and those that vote for the Coalition will boo Labor and neither group will give credit to the other.
Fortunately in Australia, the majority appear to be swinging voters and take a more pragmatic view, as the last election showed.
 
Tisme said:
Polarised by calling people "disingenuous" perhaps?
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No—because I think it was a disingenuous statement. How is that polarising? I said the comment and not the person
 
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MovingAverage said:
No—because I think it was a disingenuous statement. How is that polarising? I said the comment and not the person
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Apparently you didn't see that more than once I said I didn't disagree with what the LNP did regarding payment during covid, apart from the fact that they gave away billions to companies that didn't need it.

As for polarisation, the pollies make it so by continually throwing mud at the other side because they are fighting for their jobs, but we are not and can have a more nuanced debate (hopefully).
 
moXJO said:
The gfc happened during a china, mining and construction boom. It barely touched Australia beyond sentiment. Wayne Swan rode a bs ride on that one.
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That's like the Y2K bug debate. "Nothing happened because precautions were taken" or " the whole thing was a fraud".

Take your pick.
 
In reality that isn't a problem, no one knew which companies were going to need it and which wouldn't, also there wouldn't have been any systems in place to validate a companies claim as no one knows what a company is going to make until the books are done.

What galls me, is the fact that now that the dust has settled the ATO does know which companies didn't qualify, yet they haven't chased the companies that didn't need the money, however they are ruthless and dogged when chasing an individual taxpayer who owes them money.
That in my mind is outrageous and unforgivable.
 
MovingAverage said:
Same logic applies to Covid and the impact it has had on the global economy, but somehow I suspect you will not give the ScoMo circus the same leave pass you'll give Kevin Dudd?
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Try reading post 229 again now you are refreshed from slumber
 
SirRumpole said:
That's like the Y2K bug debate. "Nothing happened because precautions were taken" or " the whole thing was a fraud".

Take your pick.
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It was confidence in the system . That was it. The major contagion was US and Europe. We were tied to China booming. Half of you probably didn't even notice the Asian financial crisis. But in terms of effect at the time that probably had greater affect on trade.

Gfc we were basking in China money. To discount that they were resource hungry at the time is typical of Labor dullards.
 
SirRumpole said:
Have you heard of the Global Financial Crisis ?
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Old Karen Rudd had China and a construction boom to make his handling and figures look better that was set up from the previous grubament to make his efforts seem some what more impressive than what they really were!

the wages decline was that fault if Karen Dudd as well! If you remember the fair work act that Gillard drafted and along with Karen signed off on it including the unions as well!
Go the Australian workers party

the NLP lost there way years ago and aren’t much chop! But the ALP are straight out traitors still pretending to be for the Australian workers! And appeal the the more simple side of society
 
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Put down the glass bbq adsy
 
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Investoradam said:
the NLP lost there way years ago and aren’t much chop! But the ALP are straight out traitors still pretending to be for the Australian workers! And appeal the the more simple side of society
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The current LNP are just an assembly of apparatchiks and I shake my head at the current ALP bozos--more concerned about chasing the inner city chardonnay sipping green vote seeking to clear their conscience and pathetically in search of some relevance.
 
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