If it is because of Jewish influence that Nazi iconography is outlawed, wouldn't you think that Hamas iconography would be outlawed as well? That ideology is a much more current and dangerous threat to the Jewish peopl.The other side would be the Muslims who are outnumbered by those of the Jewish faith in Parliament, therefore they (the Jewish members) slant the laws to suit themselves.
I don't really have any objection to the outlawing of Nazi salutes etc, but what about the waving of Hamas flags etc, that should be outlawed as well.
Australian politicians are there to represent their constituents and to further Australia's cause and future, they are not voted in on their religious beliefs or their place of origin, not all their constituents are from the same background.The other side would be the Muslims who are outnumbered by those of the Jewish faith in Parliament, therefore they (the Jewish members) slant the laws to suit themselves.
I don't really have any objection to the outlawing of Nazi salutes etc, but what about the waving of Hamas flags etc, that should be outlawed as well.
Ok fair enough, but t what "other cohorts" were you referring to?If it is because of Jewish influence that Nazi iconography is outlawed, wouldn't you think that Hamas iconography would be outlawed as well? That ideology is a much more current and dangerous threat to the Jewish peopl.
Perhaps there is an imperative being analyzed with regards to the number of votes which may be sacrificed?
Ok fair enough, but t what "other cohorts" were you referring to?
Banning the CPA has been tried. You might as well try to ban the Greens, they hold the balance of power.Oh jeez.
Queers for Palestine
Socialist Workers Alliance
Communist Party of Australia
The left wing of the Australian Labor Party.
And that's just off the top of my head.
Both extremes are anti-semitic, the extreme right and the extreme left, so whichever of the multitude of groups which inhabit those particular cesspits of ideology, you will find those cohorts.
Well good point. But I never suggested banning any of these groups and uncomfortable with banning any sort of iconography... My points thus far have been if-then analysis.Banning the CPA has been tried. You might as well try to ban the Greens, they hold the balance of power.
Yes I agree.Well good point. But I never suggested banning any of these groups and uncomfortable with banning any sort of iconography... My points thus far have been if-then analysis.
I'm not against banning Nazis, communists, queers, greens, or any other group.
Unless they insite violence, I say let them speak. I want to know who they are, what they think and what they think they are planning to do, so that I/we can make cogent arguments against them.
Oxygen is the best disinfectant.
That's where I have a problem, I don't see a lot of difference between those who decry hate speech, yet use it to degrade those who they say are using it.Yes I agree.
National Socialism could well be put up as a valid economic policy as has been done in other countries, its when they get into hate speech that you have to draw a line.
When you vilify or incite violence against certain groups of people because they belong to that group, that's hate speech, but ideas or religious beliefs should be able to be questioned without being accused of discrimination or the like.That's where I have a problem, I don't see a lot of difference between those who decry hate speech, yet use it to degrade those who they say are using it.
Isn't that the very reason we stopped corporal and capital punishment? The basis being, we are no better than the perpetrator, if we use the same punishment as the crime.
Yet if someone doesn't agree with a left agenda, anything said against it is hate speech, but then the left proceed to publicly shame and denigrate them for their stance and call it a moral victory.
Just a complete breakdown in Australian culture IMO, we are destroying what made Australia such a great classless society and changing it for the worse.
But where is that line?When you vilify or incite violence against certain groups of people because they belong to that group, that's hate speech, but ideas or religious beliefs should be able to be questioned without being accused of discrimination or the like.
Exactly.When you vilify or incite violence against certain groups of people because they belong to that group, that's hate speech, but ideas or religious beliefs should be able to be questioned without being accused of discrimination or the like.
When you vilify or incite violence against certain groups of people because they belong to that group, that's hate speech, but ideas or religious beliefs should be able to be questioned without being accused of discrimination or the like.
That was what was so wonderful about Australia when I came here, there wasn't a class society, there wasn't an us and them, unlike the U.K where I came from as an 8 year old kid, it was amazing.Exactly.
And on the same basis, those with religious or cultural beliefs should be able to recite and follow their beliefs, without being vilified, penalised, or ostracised for having those beliefs.
As long as it doesn't cause violence, or finacial loss to other groups.
That was what was so wonderful about Australia when I came here, there wasn't a class society, there wasn't an us and them, unlike the U.K where I came from as an 8 year old kid, it was amazing.
We all ran around in bare feet, I threw mine in the bin because I was the only kid in Carey Park Primary wearing shoes, I also copped a hell of thrashing for doing that.
We all lived in State Housing Commission homes, until our parents could afford to either buy a house, or buy the housing commission home.
We were all Wogs, Pommie ba$tards, Daigos,Abbos or Lebbos, we all laughed and played sport together, there wasn't this class divide based on either a feeling of being disenfranchised, or of being some great saviour of the poor, that can claim moral brownie points, we were just Aussies trying to get ahead.
Now look at us, what a Fckn mess, all politicians should be ashamed of what we have achieved IMO.
Albo should think back to his time in the Housing Commission home, with his Mum, it made him what he is today, hopefully he reflects and brings back that what he fought for when he first started on his journey.
He is the best chance we have and hopefully he bites the bullet and blows this housing ponzi to hell.
Once that is done, those disadvantaged at the bottom have a glimmer of hope, all they have at the moment is no hope, so why not commit a crime, what's to lose? Why get a job, i'll never be able to buy a house.
My rant, its been quite a while.
Where has all the headlines about the poor first home buyers who can never get a house gone, obviously the narrative has moved on and the homeless are in more $hit.
I guess we wait until the next time we want to weaponise it.
Millions of home owners made $3,000 in January but probably didn’t notice
It seems there's no stopping the march forward in the Australian property market, with housing prices expected to continue to rise by about 6 per cent in capital cities through 2024.www.abc.net.au
The only way IMO is to can negative gearing on housing above a certain amount and allow first home buyers to offset their mortage interest up to the same amount and State Govt to go back to building social housing in house.I'm not sure Albo will do anything about the housing crisis except fiddle around the edges.
The main causes are rapid population increase and tax deductions for investors that price home buyers out of the market.
He has shown little determination to fix these , so it may be up to (gulp) The Greens to force any changes.
As I see it, an unbiased outsider looking in would be wondering why, exactly, Australians have decided to borrow a fortune in order to own the same patches of dirt and piles of bricks they already had.Just a complete breakdown in Australian culture IMO, we are destroying what made Australia such a great classless society and changing it for the worse.
I'll simply note that traditionally it's progressive politics that relies on the ability to challenge conventional wisdom and to question anything without fear.When you vilify or incite violence against certain groups of people because they belong to that group, that's hate speech, but ideas or religious beliefs should be able to be questioned without being accused of discrimination or the like.
Always the investor's fault?I'm not sure Albo will do anything about the housing crisis except fiddle around the edges.
The main causes are rapid population increase and tax deductions for investors that price home buyers out of the market.
He has shown little determination to fix these , so it may be up to (gulp) The Greens to force any changes.
30% is a large proportion of the market.Less than 30% of the housing market is held by them.
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