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I don't think many in the Labor party actually see Rudd as much more than a stop-gap measure to ensure that unloseable seats in Western Sydney are not lost. IMO, the basis for Rudd coming back is to make sure these heartland seats aren't lost. How electorates like Werriwa could possibly be falling to the Libs shows just how dire the ALP's position is.
Agree, sails. It's unimaginable that Mr Rudd, especially after having been so shafted by the Labor Party, would agree to returning to the leadership without some built in guarantee of tenure well beyond the September election.So you reckon they would just use him to save some furniture then dump him? You would think he would be smart enough to know that Shorten is in his shadow and his time as PM is just as likely to be short lived after the election.
Agreed but what choice do Labor MPs have. Their situation is desperate and you have got to admit Rudd is good at campaigning.If they brought Rudd back the Libs would have so much against him, so much they could throw at him that the advantage Labor would think they're getting would be greatly diminished by the time Sept 14th came around.
Agree, sails. It's unimaginable that Mr Rudd, especially after having been so shafted by the Labor Party, would agree to returning to the leadership without some built in guarantee of tenure well beyond the September election.
You might be right. He is, after all, just about revenge.I disagree I doubt if he is interested in leadership after the election it will be enough for him to unseat Gillard
and have all the labor people bowing to him. He is more likely to position himself for a UN job after the election IMO.
Your POV is delusional IMO.So abbot will probably be PM in a few months but I think he leaves a lot to be desired. I think people will quickly tire of him and give the ALP a shot at power in three years.
The gender card should never have been played.
I cant see Rudd coming back in, the party is too divided.
Either way, they will lose the election dramatically.
The public have had enough, any mention of the Labor party when out and about and people get angry.
Tells me it will be a wipe out.
This has been handed to Abbott on a silver platter.
snip. I think Abbott will surprise a lot of people with his competence in the top job.
So abbot will probably be PM in a few months but I think he leaves a lot to be desired. I think people will quickly tire of him and give the ALP a shot at power in three years.
Just an observation but I get the impression that Mr Abbott is more astute than most think.
Just an observation but I get the impression that Mr Abbott is more astute than most think. He seems to be able to focus when needs be. I could be wrong. Neither Ms Gillard not Mr Abbott are stupid individuals, quite the opposite. However, Ms Gillard appears to have been poorly advised and allowed to become distracted and irritated by valid criticisms while Mr Abbott, appears more focused - although that could be a function of being in opposition and not currently responsible for programme outcomes.
So you reckon they would just use him to save some furniture then dump him? You would think he would be smart enough to know that Shorten is in his shadow and his time as PM is just as likely to be short lived after the election.
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