The Gillard Government

bellenuit · 4 June 2013

Bintang said:
Gillard has denied this but she should step down anyway before polling day and the sooner the better. By this I don't mean better for the Labor party. I mean better for the Nation and its democracy.

For the last 5 months I have been relishing seeing Gillard go down hard on polling day but I am beginning to rethink. The polls are now looking so bad for Labor that I think we could end up with an opposition party so enfeebled that it will not be healthy for our democracy. We need a new Government for sure but not one which is able to do whatever it wants because the opposition benches are nearly empty.
It could be that if Gillard is allowed to take the whole party over the cliff with her that her legacy will be not just the wreckage caused during her time at the leadership helm but also the wreckage that might ensue after she has gone - i.e. from a coalition Government that has too much unbridled power and arrogance.

So, in the words of an old Labor party election slogan - "It Is time". Gillard should go now. Doesn't really matter with whom she is replaced. Just the fact she will have gone should give the party back a few extra votes a thereby save a few extra seats.

We need a government that has an absolute majority in both houses so that they can repeal the previous bad legislation and enact good legislation without pandering to the whims of minorities. I know there is a risk with so much power, but it was the lack of a clear majority that led to much of the mess we are in. If Labor learns its lesson and can come up with a party that is more than a collection of union hacks, then it might deserve better representation at the following election.

banco · 4 June 2013

MrBurns said:
Yes Abbott lost nothing by backing out of that, Labor looked like idiots calling him untrustworthy........they really haven't a clue,

If Gillard had signed a letter agreeing to something and then backed out you'd be the first one calling for her head.

MrBurns · 4 June 2013

banco said:
If Gillard had signed a letter agreeing to something and then backed out you'd be the first one calling for her head.

No, not really, only an idiot would have a go at someone who backed out of a deal to blow more taxpayers money.

And that idiot is Gillard , she even called him untrustworthy causing level 6 on the richter scale of laughter around the country.

Bintang · 4 June 2013

banco said:
If Gillard had signed a letter agreeing to something and then backed out you'd be the first one calling for her head.

She's done worse than that and nearly everyone is calling for her head anyway.

Calliope · 4 June 2013

banco said:
If Gillard had signed a letter agreeing to something and then backed out you'd be the first one calling for her head.

Certainly not! We need that red head to be still in the job at election time. She is the Coalition's best chance to bring down the whole rotten edifice.

MrBurns · 4 June 2013

Calliope said:
Certainly not! We need that red head to be still in the job at election time. She is the Coalition's best chance to bring down the whole rotten edifice.

I'll second that, she should go down with the ship she sunk

Julia · 4 June 2013

bellenuit said:
We need a government that has an absolute majority in both houses so that they can repeal the previous bad legislation and enact good legislation without pandering to the whims of minorities. I know there is a risk with so much power, but it was the lack of a clear majority that led to much of the mess we are in. If Labor learns its lesson and can come up with a party that is more than a collection of union hacks, then it might deserve better representation at the following election.

I agree.

Bintang, I get your point about a healthy opposition, but the primary objective should be, as bellenuit points out, to repeal the woeful legislation. The nation will not take kindly to a double dissolution election in order to achieve this.

banco · 4 June 2013

MrBurns said:
No, not really, only an idiot would have a go at someone who backed out of a deal to blow more taxpayers money.

And that idiot is Gillard , she even called him untrustworthy causing level 6 on the richter scale of laughter around the country.

So I assume you think Abbott should be free to break any commitments he makes if they involve the expenditure of taxpayer money? Really being such a dedicated political hack I thought you'd do a better job of spinning Abbott's poor judgement in agreeing to the deal without consulting his colleagues etc.

MrBurns · 4 June 2013

banco said:
So I assume you think Abbott should be free to break any commitments he makes if they involve the expenditure of taxpayer money? Really being such a dedicated political hack I thought you'd do a better job of spinning Abbott's poor judgement in agreeing to the deal without consulting his colleagues etc.

I didn't say that, but I don't think anyone will judged harshly for breaking an agreement with a proven liar to save the taxpayer money.

Macquack · 4 June 2013

Calliope said:
Certainly not! We need that red head to be still in the job at election time. She is the Coalition's best chance to bring down the whole rotten edifice.

The "red head's" name is Julia Gillard and happens to be the Prime Minister (at the moment), so show some f***king respect.

Does your voice have the same feminine tones as Alan Jones when you dictate this rubbish to yourself?

MrBurns · 4 June 2013

Macquack said:
The "red head's" name is Julia Gillard and happens to be the Prime Minister (at the moment), so show some f***king respect.

Does your voice have the same feminine tones as Alan Jones when you dictate this rubbish to yourself?

ROFL respect ???? yes all she deserves...............hand me other sandwich........

Bintang · 4 June 2013

Julia said:
I agree.

Bintang, I get your point about a healthy opposition, but the primary objective should be, as bellenuit points out, to repeal the woeful legislation. The nation will not take kindly to a double dissolution election in order to achieve this.

Fair enough. But after they have repealed the bad stuff what will they do after that. For how long will they exercise their power altruistically? I'm not saying don't give them the power they need to do what you suggest. I'm just saying there needs to be a sufficiently large opposition to keep the new guys in charge under the microscope and on their toes.

Nonetheless it would be a hilarious outcome if Kevin Ruddd becomes not just the only Queensland Labor MP left standing after the election but also the ONLY Labor MP left standing nationwide. It would be the ultimate reward for a compulsive micro-manager. He would be able to appoint himself to every single shadow portfolio. LOL

drsmith · 4 June 2013

Poor Laurie Ferguson must have drawn the short straw to front up on the ABC's 7:30 to give the dead horse a bit more of a flogging.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3774614.htm

It's a far cry from "Another Boat, another Failure".

Bintang · 4 June 2013

Macquack said:
The "red head's" name is Julia Gillard and happens to be the Prime Minister (at the moment), so show some f***king respect.

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Calliope · 5 June 2013

Macquack said:
The "red head's" name is Julia Gillard and happens to be the Prime Minister (at the moment), so show some f***king respect.

Does your voice have the same feminine tones as Alan Jones when you dictate this rubbish to yourself?

You'll just have to grin and bear it Macquack; you are demanding "f***king respect". I think you should show a little respect to your fellow posters. A potty mouth does not help.

Logique · 5 June 2013

Listen I voted for Bob Hawke, and Andrew Bolt worked for him.

I say to people who really care about the ALP, do not vote for them on 14 Sept.

Look at the ever increasing number of disillusioned party members, inside and outside of the parliament. Labor needs a chance to rebuild, go back to basics, return to genuine community representation and the merit principle ; and slough off the careerists, Unions and Emilys Listers who have hijacked it.

MrBurns · 5 June 2013

It's going to be a long 100 days...

sptrawler · 5 June 2013

Logique said:
Listen I voted for Bob Hawke, and Andrew Bolt worked for him.

I say to people who really care about the ALP, do not vote for them on 14 Sept.

Look at the ever increasing number of disillusioned party members, inside and outside of the parliament. Labor needs a chance to rebuild, go back to basics, return to genuine community representation and the merit principle ; and slough off the careerists, Unions and Emilys Listers who have hijacked it.

+1 my sentiments exactly.

Judd · 5 June 2013

It has almost become surreal. One can imagine the following "good news" group email to the Liberals, ALP and the Greens on the electorates voting intentions:

To the ALP, the good news is that the electorate do not wish to vote for the Lib or Green candidates.
To the Libs, the good news is that the electorate do not wish to vote for the ALP or Green candidates,
To the Greens, the good news is that the electorate do not wish to vote for the ALP or Lib candidates.

Now for the bad news......

Calliope · 5 June 2013

Even the unions are trying to distance themselves from Labor.

EMOTIVE advertisements depicting families whose lives are being undermined by unjust workplace practices will begin screening tonight, as a part of a major campaign push by unions against insecure work.

With 101 days to go to the federal election, the ACTU advertisements will debut during tonight's rugby league State of Origin telecast and will evoke memories of the 2007 Your Rights At Work campaign that was widely credited with helping to bring down the Howard government.

Union officials said they needed to improve their public image given the likely election of an Abbott government and the Coalition's intention to wage an assault on the institutional power of unions.

ACTU secretary Dave Oliver said the new advertisements did not mention the Coalition but used scenarios to show how unions could help workers combat the "imbalance of power in the workplace".

The advertisements do not mention the ALP and Mr Oliver maintained that unions were independent of the Labor Party.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-the-downtrodden/story-fn59noo3-1226657368437

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