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sptrawler said:
Since when has the federal government put in power stations, I think you'll find that is a state government function.LOL
Rumpole can you give me some of whatever your smoking.
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Ever heard of the Snowy Mountains Scheme ? Wait for state governments and you die waiting.

I don't smoke, but maybe I'll start now..:bong:
 
rumpole said:
Ever heard of the Snowy Mountains Scheme ? Wait for state governments and you die waiting.

I don't smoke, but maybe I'll start now..:bong:
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Yes and the smoke will probably come out through your ears instead of your mouth because there ain't nothin' between them.
 
rumpole said:
Ahhh abuse. The last refuge of the fool...

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Take the blikers off rumpole and you will bound to see all the faults of this inept Green/Labor government. The anomalies and faults have been listed time and time again on this forum.
The stuff ups, the wasted money and the scandals that continue to haunt Gillard, Rudd, Arbib, Craig Thomson and now Smith.
 
rumpole said:
But both parties have lost the plot, surrendered to the globalisation con job and are trying to out Conservative each other .
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That's an unusual take on a Labor government whose agenda is being driven almost entirely by The Greens.

Under this government, we are seeing an ever expanding nanny state.

If the Libs will do nothing else, they will at least halt the exponential increase in telling the electorate what they may and may not do. If Labor keep up their intended inhibition of free speech, get the level of censorship they desire, and impinge on people's personal freedoms at this rate, we will soon be a nation of zombies, incapable of taking personal responsibility for running our own lives.
 
Julia said:
.... and impinge on people's personal freedoms at this rate, we will soon be a nation of zombies, incapable of taking personal responsibility for running our own lives.
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Oh right, and the baby bonus and paid maternity leave funded by business are not nanny state wastes of money which remove personal responsibility at the expense of the state and business ?
 
rumpole said:
Oh right, and the baby bonus and paid maternity leave funded by business are not nanny state wastes of money which remove personal responsibility at the expense of the state and business ?
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Well Rumpole I agree with you there. But I can't agree the parties are out conservatising each other, more like out socialismizing each other (as you rightly pint out)... with Labor's experience showing and them way ahead on points.

In fact if Turnbull leads again, we'll effectively have two Labor parties.

 
rumpole said:
Oh right, and the baby bonus and paid maternity leave funded by business are not nanny state wastes of money which remove personal responsibility at the expense of the state and business ?
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No, they should both be wiped and should never have been introduced.

Rumpole, because I'm horrified by the present government with its massive waste and repugnant obedience to The Greens, it does not mean I believe all will be cured if Mr Abbott becomes Prime Minister.

I'm simply in favour of the (small l) liberal general philosophy which encourages people to take responsibility for themselves much more than Labor ever seem to.

The Abbott maternity leave scheme is just dreadful. He is being very foolish in persisting with it.

The baby bonus was introduced, as I'm sure you know, by Peter Costello with the basis of that generation of children being around to fund the pensions of then old people. I didn't ever like the idea but it did seem to have quite wide acceptance at the time. In the event, too many people who wouldn't make particularly good parents having babies just to get the money, whilst those who would make the best parents probably were not influenced either way by that small amount of money.
 
Julia said:
In the event, too many people who wouldn't make particularly good parents having babies just to get the money, whilst those who would make the best parents probably were not influenced either way by that small amount of money.
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Spot on there Julia. It seems the quantity of babies was considered more important than the quality.
 
Julia said:
No, they should both be wiped and should never have been introduced..
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Agreed. I didn't like it when Costello and Howard introduced it, I don't like it now under Labor, and I won't like it under the Coalition>2013.

Almost obscenely selfish that the money isn't instead spent on boosting the skilled migrant intake. Migrants have a work ethic, as opposed to the complacent self-entitled mentality too often seen in in Aus.

Don't imagine for a moment that it won't be rorted by a minority of opportunists, i.e. stay with a company just long enough to qualify for maternity leave, then after the 18 weeks, or 6 months, leave, move on.
 
Julia said:
The baby bonus was introduced, as I'm sure you know, by Peter Costello with the basis of that generation of children being around to fund the pensions of then old people.
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Yes, Costello erred. These sub-prime qualitiy babies will grow up to be welfare recipients like their parents, and will naturally vote Labor to keep the welfare coming.
 
The usual finger wagging sanctimony from Plibersek. The Farmer of the Year wasn't going to be cut any slack by the Minister for Health.

 
Bob Carrs' attack on Tony Abbott is pretty ordinary and weird.

"With an eye to domestic politics, Senator Carr launched an attack on Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, describing him as a "cheapskate hypnotist".

"He's saying to the electorate, 'Look into my eyes, you are growing weaker - no more boats'," Mr Carr said.

"'Look into my eyes, you are growing weaker in Labor's big bad tax'.

"'Look into my eyes, you are growing weaker - debt and deficit'."


Bob has already joined the chorus line - "it's all Tony Abbott's fault"

Move along folks nothing new here - I think some people, mistakenly, thought he would be different.
 
dutchie said:
Move along folks nothing new here - I think some people, mistakenly, thought he would be different.
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Rather, he is just like Downer when he had the gig, keeping involved in the domestic crap by attacking the opposition of the day whenever he saw fit.

Yes?
 
At the next election, it won't matter whether the Coalition is led by Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull or Daffy Duck.

Labor will still lose big.
 
dutchie said:
.."He's saying to the electorate, 'Look into my eyes, you are growing weaker - no more boats'," Mr Carr said..
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He he, it takes one to know one. NSW people will just roll their eyes and move on. Rhetoric and propaganda, it's all Labor-Greens have left to cling to, with their policy suite almost completely discredited.
 
drsmith said:
At the next election, it won't matter whether the Coalition is led by Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull or Daffy Duck.

Labor will still lose big.
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But by then , at what cost to the nation?
e.g. Just revisit the Humpty Dumpty poem.
joea
 
The Labor party is going to save heaps of money at the next election. All their banners, advertising, policy announcements (one) etc will be covered by the only policy they have:-

ITS ALL TONY ABBOTTS FAULT
 
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