The future of energy generation and storage

SirRumpole · 2025-09-18T09:40:10+1000

mullokintyre said:
The article stated that no private company was interested in building a gas fired replacement for Kurri Kurri, which is why the Government decided to do it.
Where they got the cost estimates from is any ones guess.
maybe from a bloke down the pub.
mick

Maybe Price, Waterhouse, Coopers?

sptrawler · 2025-09-18T10:38:00+1000

mullokintyre said:
The article stated that no private company was interested in building a gas fired replacement for Kurri Kurri, which is why the Government decided to do it.
Where they got the cost estimates from is any ones guess.
maybe from a bloke down the pub.
mick

Napkins are usefull apparently

SirRumpole · 2025-09-18T10:49:06+1000

sptrawler said:
Napkins are usefull apparently

As are the backs of envelopes.

qldfrog · 2025-09-18T10:50:34+1000

SirRumpole said:
As are the backs of envelopes.

especially if the envelopes are full of cash and future employment offers

sptrawler · 2025-09-18T11:34:08+1000

SirRumpole said:
As are the backs of envelopes.

qldfrog said:
especially if the envelopes are full of cash and future employment offers

The problem is every project be it private or Govt, the cost blow outs are ridiculous, either the contracts are poorly written, poorly supervised, or inflation is a lot more than being stated and input costs are out of control.

Antirnator · 2025-09-18T15:19:26+1000

The Science

It's so absurd I'm laughing hysterically

qldfrog · 2025-09-18T15:25:28+1000

Antirnator said:
The Science

It's so absurd I'm laughing hysterically
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i do not laugh, i cry
for the country, the mass brainwash, the absence of even basic numeric and sciencific knowledge, let alone economic or geopolitics.
another sad day for Australia

Antirnator · 2025-09-18T15:31:48+1000

qldfrog said:
i do not laugh, i cry
for the country, the mass brainwash, the absence of even basic numeric and sciencific knowledge, let alone economic or geopolitics.
another sad day for Australia

It's like watching a Monty Python skit, Yes Prime Minister or something from Utopia. He doesn't even know what he is saying.

rederob · 2025-09-19T06:59:26+1000

Smurf1976 said:
A lot comes down to data and practical reality.

You simply show NOW, and not the future.
The future is electric, and the trend is accelerating for many reasons.
At its core, energy from renewables for example, does not lose the majority of its potential in the way it does from fossil fuels.

The above is further enhanced by continuous cost reductions associated with ongoing electrification as the effects of scaling kick in:

(https://reneweconomy.com.au/extraor...in-as-wind-and-solar-curtailment-levels-soar/)
Add to the above the fact that technical innovation in the fields of electrification are continuing to advance at aremarkable pace, while FF-based electricity can't eke out much more than it already gets.

SirRumpole · 2025-09-19T08:07:12+1000

I would just like to see a national plan for a transformed grid.

How much wind, solar, battery , hydro, coal, gas, where will it go , how much will it cost ?

No one in politics has got a clue and that's why we can trust anyone.

Put the engineers in charge, not the climate zealots.

How many times do we have to say it?

sptrawler · 2025-09-19T11:49:15+1000

It would appear the hydrogen superpower, has gone on the back burner and there has been a move to plan B, to just replace fossil fuel.
Interesting plan, many will be happy that they can keep their ICE cars running.

Albanese government's bold plan to ditch petrol in Australia

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has unveiled a bold plan which could see petrol and diesel phased out.

www.dailymail.co.uk

sptrawler · 2025-09-19T12:06:23+1000

sptrawler said:
It will be interesting to see if more coal announcements follow, it certainly is a product that is on the nose.

BHP alliance to sack 750 workers blaming Qld mining royalties

One of Queensland's biggest coal miners says it does not want to see jobs lost but blamed "the Queensland government's unsustainable coal royalties and market conditions".

www.abc.net.au

Well that didn't take long to be answered.

Second Qld coal miner cuts jobs as royalties spark concerns

Mining giant Anglo American confirms job cuts in Brisbane and the Bowen Basin in the wake of BHP Mitsubishi Alliance axing 750 workers.

www.abc.net.au

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