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Garpal Gumnut

Garpal Gumnut

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I believe smoking cigarettes should be encouraged after an enjoyable root and when enjoying a beer in good company.

I further believe it should be encouraged after a good breakfast of hash browns, bacon, egg, snags, tomatoes and baked beans.

Also it should be encouraged in individual circumstances where a heightened sensation can be achieved by the addition of a quick fix of nicotine.

It is also sensible to have a smoke when danger has been averted, in war, after car and train smashes and when a missus or husband turns feral.

I realise many wowsers will disagree , but this is my opinion.

gg
 
The patches and nicotine gum worked great for me...i no longer have
the need for a Ciggie at anytime.

Still enjoy beers and a good root.
 
Legalise cannabis i say... its a totally natural product... nothing wrong with it if used sensibly.

unlike the other drugs like ice, e, cocaine, etc... which is un-natural and man made... weed is just harmless good fun...

i say smoke weed before a root - it'll enhance the experience... and maybe afterwards, a stiff drink to relax and chill out...
 
Agree, So_Cynical , same here. I stopped the filthy habit 6 weeks ago, and am using patches and gum , including the nicorette activestop program. Just register on their site, and get a great daily program for the first few weeks, with daily SMS. Never felt better, although first few days were a bitch.

I've stopped, prompted by recently being diagnosed with hiatal hernia, not necessarily a serious conditional, and can be very manageable ... if anyone has regular heartburn, they know that having chest pain is not comfortable ... so giving up something as so useless as cigs, is a no brainer.
 
korrupt_1 said:
Legalise cannabis i say... its a totally natural product... nothing wrong with it if used sensibly.

unlike the other drugs like ice, e, cocaine, etc... which is un-natural and man made... weed is just harmless good fun...

i say smoke weed before a root - it'll enhance the experience... and maybe afterwards, a stiff drink to relax and chill out...
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I totally disagree with legalising dope, cannabis, weed, whatever you like to call it. It should stay illegal and be used in some cases for medical treatment as it is sometimes.
 
I occasionally smoke an electronic cigar - It contains a nicotine solution which is vaporised when you inhale, produces a nice thick plume of odourless smoke (vapour ) with out all the other harmful toxins in tobacco ( except nicotine and a preservative ) ....

Most people havnt heard of these - i recommend to anyone quitting smoking or seeking a healthier ? alternative.

:D:D
 
I also recommend getting hit by a bus. Not at all bad for your health, you may even get a new hip and meet a nice nurse....:banghead:

:bier:
 
Never been a full time smoker but do enjoy the odd one now and again.

Often its months between puffs, last one was about 2 weeks ago.

I realise all the evidence is about all the negative health issues but personally many things in life are bad for you in excess, drink too much Malt Whisky and its bad but a glass now and then ain't going to do much if any damage.

Actually find the odd ciggy and glass of single malt almost therapeutic and a relaxant.

Each to there own and live and let live :)
 
Garpel Gumnut said:
I believe smoking cigarettes should be encouraged after an enjoyable root and when enjoying a beer in good company.
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You, and those around you, haven't had a cigarette for a while then I assume. ;):D

On a side note you forgot to mention that a good cigar should be enjoyed on the birth of a child and on any birthday that ends with a zero.



... and I know the topic is intended with levity but I can't help myself:

So what's your view, GG, on "bludging smokers" using public money to pay for hospital beds and equipment to keep them alive while they are wheezing away racked in agony from secondary cancers while stuffed with copious quantities of morphine paid for by tax payers?


I'm a former 2 pack a day smoker myself - gave up many years ago but used to still enjoy one with a beer - now don't smoke at all for the past several years. I could probably count in the hundreds of thousands of dollars the net effect of the money saved from not smoking ... and being able to breathe easily without gasping for air is priceless. (and like most reformed smokers I'm a complete hypocrit and now can't stand anyone smoking anywhere, anytime).
 
I enjoy a good cigar every now and then. But for me i have never been the 1 to get addicted (that includes drugs).
 
Former smoker who stil has the very occassional (once every couple of months) puff. It seemed bohemian at uni - now it just seems plain needy and gross as you cower with all the other foyer rats feeding your state sponsored addiction.

Don't need it, can't believe I did it for so long, but don't begrudge others who still puff away. It was great after food, a beer, or the beast with two backs. Perversely, I always enjoyed a ciggie after a session at the gym or playing a game of soccer? Something subconscious in there.

As for public dollars spent on cancer-riddled smokers, what of the cheese burger-loving diabetic having a leg lopped off, the wine-addled alco succumbing to cirrhosis of the liver, the red car-bedecked lothario who wraps himself around a pole or just the plain old broccolli-chomping grandmother whose brain gives in to demetia due to her obsessive need to stay alive? Why just pick on the smoker?
 
I'd be quite happy if cigarettes and alcohol were banned. But alas, both are accepted by most in society and generate too much money for the guvmint, and if either were deemed illegal they would be voted out. The negative impacts generated by both of these FAR outweigh any mediocre positives.

Imagine the ease of burden on our overstretched health system, the dramatic drop in alcohol related crimes - drink driving incidents, alcohol induced violence, and people using "being under the influence of alcohol" as an excuse in court and getting a lighter sentance. Yes alot of these people will commit these crimes anyway, but alcohol only fuels their problem and makes them much worse...

I cant provide a source, but I remember reading that the percentage of low income earners that smoke is extremely higher than those on middle and upper incomes. Imagine the money that these low income earners could save...

For those who say "why should the rest of us who drink responsibly/smoke occasionally suffer?" - well why should those who use marijuana, steroids, or any other illegal substance responsibly suffer? Many of these can be used safely too. If you cant enjoy eating breakfast/dinner, drinking tea, a night out, partying, or sex WITHOUT cigarettes and/or alcohol, well.... I'm not even going there as I'll offend people...

Surely most people here will have a loved one (friend or family) who has suffered due to smoking related illnesses... or alcohol related - victim in a drink driving accident, an alcoholic, been assaulted out on the town by someone drunk (or been in a drunken fight yourself).

Im sure there are many ppl on this forum who have had loved ones in similar situations. Is having a cigarette or drink really worth it, knowing the sufferring that each of these brings to society?

I know I'll probably get flamed for this post, but like GG, this is just my opinion...
 
Smoking is dumb, you pay lots of money to kill yourself slowly. A no-brainer really.

But having said that, I am a reformed smoker. I haven't been a full time smoker for about 10 years now, though on the occasion do enjoy the odd smoke. Especially while having a single malt neat, a robust red or a smooth port with friends.

I will often go several months without a smoke, though other times may smoke on several occasions in the one month. It's purely situational and social (social mainly as I rarely buy them and usually bum them and if I ever buy a pack it is when I have at least one wobbly boot on and I always give away the pack before I go home).

So I have to agree GG there is the odd time for me when a durry definitely puts the icing on the cake.
 
korrupt_1 said:
Legalise cannabis i say... its a totally natural product... nothing wrong with it if used sensibly.

unlike the other drugs like ice, e, cocaine, etc... which is un-natural and man made... weed is just harmless good fun...

i say smoke weed before a root - it'll enhance the experience... and maybe afterwards, a stiff drink to relax and chill out...
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Na I'd prefer it to stay illegal. Imagine the tax the govt would be able to rake in on that one! What currently costs $50(or free if it miraculously appears next to the tomatoes and corn in the vege patch) would all of a sudden be available next to the smokes in the local grog shop for $350. No thanks!

Leave it illegal and tax free thank you:)

gav said:
I'd be quite happy if cigarettes and alcohol were banned. But alas, both are accepted by most in society and generate too much money for the guvmint, and if either were deemed illegal they would be voted out. The negative impacts generated by both of these FAR outweigh any mediocre positives.

Imagine the ease of burden on our overstretched health system, the dramatic drop in alcohol related crimes - drink driving incidents, alcohol induced violence, and people using "being under the influence of alcohol" as an excuse in court and getting a lighter sentance. Yes alot of these people will commit these crimes anyway, but alcohol only fuels their problem and makes them much worse...

I cant provide a source, but I remember reading that the percentage of low income earners that smoke is extremely higher than those on middle and upper incomes. Imagine the money that these low income earners could save...

For those who say "why should the rest of us who drink responsibly/smoke occasionally suffer?" - well why should those who use marijuana, steroids, or any other illegal substance responsibly suffer? Many of these can be used safely too. If you cant enjoy eating breakfast/dinner, drinking tea, a night out, partying, or sex WITHOUT cigarettes and/or alcohol, well.... I'm not even going there as I'll offend people...

Surely most people here will have a loved one (friend or family) who has suffered due to smoking related illnesses... or alcohol related - victim in a drink driving accident, an alcoholic, been assaulted out on the town by someone drunk (or been in a drunken fight yourself).

Im sure there are many ppl on this forum who have had loved ones in similar situations. Is having a cigarette or drink really worth it, knowing the sufferring that each of these brings to society?

I know I'll probably get flamed for this post, but like GG, this is just my opinion...
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Whilst I'm sure the theory of that sounds great to the clean living folk on the forum, the unfortunate reality is that if you banned booze and health sticks, people would just move on to something else. Or keep doing it illegally. The only thing that would be lost is tax revenue.
 
professor_frink said:
Whilst I'm sure the theory of that sounds great to the clean living folk on the forum, the unfortunate reality is that if you banned booze and health sticks, people would just move on to something else. Or keep doing it illegally. The only thing that would be lost is tax revenue.
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Yes people would continue to do it illegally, like all illegal substances. But how many Australians use cannabis, compared to cigarettes or alcohol? The figure would be significantly less for cannabis as it is illegal. Alcohol kills more Australians every year than any other drug. This is because its readily available.

If tax revenue is the main reason for keeping alcohol/cigarettes legal, why wouldnt the government legalise other prohibited substances for tax revenue?

As for the lost tax revenue, what about the strain on our health care system? This would be reduced SIGNIFICANTLY also. And the longer they were banned, the better it would be for our health system. Imagine how much money would be saved over the long term. And not to mention the most important factor, lives would be saved!!!
 
gav said:
Y Alcohol kills more Australians every year than any other drug. This is because its readily available.
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I don't think it's about availability, I think it's cultural.

Other societies have loads of cheap woobla available, yet don't have the same problems with it as we Anglo Saxons.
 
derty said:
Smoking is dumb, you pay lots of money to kill yourself slowly. A no-brainer really.

But having said that, I am a reformed smoker. I haven't been a full time smoker for about 10 years now, though on the occasion do enjoy the odd smoke. Especially while having a single malt neat, a robust red or a smooth port with friends.

I will often go several months without a smoke, though other times may smoke on several occasions in the one month. It's purely situational and social (social mainly as I rarely buy them and usually bum them and if I ever buy a pack it is when I have at least one wobbly boot on and I always give away the pack before I go home).

So I have to agree GG there is the odd time for me when a durry definitely puts the icing on the cake.
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Come on derty, I`ll make up your mind for you.You are still addicted to nicotine.
 
gav,

I'll choose not to reply. I'm not after a debate on the issue. It ain't gunna happen so no point going round in circles:)

Back on the topic of the thread-

Yes, smoking ain't all bad. I quite enjoy it.
I also enjoy drinking a little too much on the weekends, sometimes combined with a joint just before a good game of football comes on the tv. And I also enjoy following it up the next day with a greasy breakfast, a couple of cups of good coffee(and of course a cigarette or 3 to go with them), followed by taking slightly too much nurofen plus to kill off the remaining hangover and to get a bit of a buzz before I have an afternoon nap.:)
 
just leave me and my smokes alone alright.:D
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