School Bullying

[Who Dares Wins]

Applauding violence is insanity.

Oh come on!

You've obviously led one of those charmed lives where nothing horrendous and out of the blue has happened to you.

Wait till someone bursts in the door and has a crack at your mum with a spade as happened to mine........trust me, you'll feel differently.

 

[springhill]

No need to stand there and take anything. Certain situations might call for a show of force, it's just that he was quite violent and people are applauding that. Applauding violence is insanity.

The big boy's father has about 4 teeth missing - I wonder how that happened? He had no idea that his own son had been bullied his entire school life, and that indicates he has no interest in the welfare of his own son. And then there's the question of why the boy is over-eating - hello Dad???? Does the boy have self esteem problems??? He's not really a bloke who should have had kids.

For channel 9 to sensationalize it and call him a hero is just beyond pathetic. In their world, tit for tat is "GOOD STUFF!!"

Tit for tat, eye for an eye....... oh boy. Caveman stuff. Seriously. Have a look back through history and see how well eye for an eye mentality has worked.

I can't agree with this last part, this was not tit for tat, that would imply that the bully perpetrated violence against the victim ONLY ONCE and the victim retaliated at the first offence.
This was a sustained attack over years.
Everyone has a breaking point, GB.

 

[Gringotts Bank]

I guess standing up for yourself takes a degree of courage at that age (or any age, depending on the degree of insult), but it's not that big a deal. I've had to do it a couple of times as a kid, like most people. You do what's necessary, hopefully just enough to put the wind up someone without causing damage, but I understand things can easily escalate in a heated moment.

The real problem in this instance is that all he has learned is that he can stand up for himself. That's a small victory. What he needs to learn is that he is 'ok', that there is nothing wrong with him as a person (whether he's fat ot not, whether his Dad cares for him or not, etc). Feeling inadequate creates a sense of vulnerability that bullies will smell a mile off. Lose that feeling and the bully won't even notice you as a target - you just become another one of the crowd he wouldn't dare to pick on.

The bully needs to learn the very same lesson and stop externalizing his pain.

Bullying, like any problem in society, is not the problem in itself, it's always a symptom of something else.

 

[Chris45]

The Gale child was a strawweight and easy for a heavyweight to deal with, but I just hope that, after all of this publicity, some bigger bully doesn’t feel the need to take Casey down for some twisted reason.

If the kid’s overweight, it’s most likely his parents’ fault for feeding him junk food instead of good nutritious food, and for not taking a proper interest in his physical development. He comes across as a really decent person and he needs a break and a bit of respect and support from his peers, so I hope the school steps up and takes action to ensure the bullying stops, although I’m not optimistic they will.

The education system seems to be totally incapable of devising a way of eliminating bullying so that kids can receive their education in a safe environment without the constant fear of being viciously bashed and then humiliated on the Internet. Why are kids allowed to have mobile camera phones in school for a start? ... Oh, I forgot, KRudd and his mob want kids to be part of the digital revolution don’t they? Well, mobiles are NOT necessary for a child's education and, along with knives and guns, should be BANNED!

 

[Mister Mark]

As a child i was small and from a broken home, very unusual in those times, i would be the only child without a father in some tough schools and was bullied constantly.
If you dont have the necessary supports around you it is hard, i understand what the boy bullied did.
I had daughters so their bullying was different to mine and with my wifes help we were able to help them grow and learn from it.
I have grandsons now, I take them weekly to tae kwon doe lessons for not only self defence but to learn personal disipline, control and how to handle confrontation.
They have learned so much and it helps them to become better people i believe.
Just my thoughts

 

[tothemax6]

Tit for tat, eye for an eye....... oh boy. Caveman stuff. Seriously. Have a look back through history and see how well eye for an eye mentality has worked.

History is filled with dead nations that lost an eye and failed to take one in return.

Retaliation is very important, it is not a vice. It is only the risk of retaliation that stops bad men being in control. This is the whole purpose of the police force - if you hurt someone, you will be arrested and imprisoned. This is the ideal retaliation. However in the absence of police, when it is one man faced with a thug, the man has only his hands and his wits with which to retaliate. He must make the decision: "either the thug wins, or I win". The man who chooses the former is not to be praised, he is to be mocked.

Retaliation is moral.

 

[Gringotts Bank]

I'm not into morality as a general rule, just what works and what feels right.

I'd use violence if I had to, but my first line of defense would be a few Jedi mind tricks, or perhaps running away like a little girl.

Now that you've had a good laugh, there are actually ways* of dealing with even the most out of control people that can save both them and you a lot of pain and anguish, whereupon both of you have a good chance of walking away unharmed.

* top secret black ops stuff, if you catch my drift!

But if you really think retaliation is a good idea, I can't stop you.... or can I?

 

[Tink]

I agree GB - walking away is always the best. Takes more courage in my books to walk than to fight.

I havent taken much notice of this as ACA and TT articles dont interest me.

Curious what the bullies parents had to say about their child.

 

[Kimberly]

I used to be a teacher, and I have no issue with what Casey did!
Hopefully this serves as an example to bullies and those being bullied!

 

[trainspotter]

Now the "bully" wants his 15 minutes of fame claiming he was the victim and was retaliating LOLOLOLOLOL ........ pour some more petrol on this fire as it is not dead yet.

 

[wayneL]

I agree GB - walking away is always the best.

Not always. The most persistent bullies will follow you and keep on bullying. They will even punch you in the back of the head.

 

[adobee]

When I was at primary school an older boy once started bullying & teasing me when I was in the toilets at the urinal.. I turned around and wee'd on him.. I have found this a very useful technique for dealing with bullies there on..

 

[joea]

Who was the real bully.?
The kid doing the hitting, or the two bigger boys , one filming and the other edging the smaller kid on.?
It is interesting to note when Casey reacted, a bigger boy advances on Casey. In the actual film this larger boy advancing on Casey was told to "back off" by a girl.
So what I see is a smaller boy, trying to fit in being edged on by two older boys getting their kicks from the whole deal.
I think Casey will use this experience, and turn into something good.
The bully, and those associated with filmning, have a long way to go to get anywhere!!!
Cheers

 

[Gringotts Bank]

What everyone fails to see was that the big kid wasn't frightened. Watch his face, watch his breathing and remember he is twice the size of the little kid. He was almost inviting the smaller kid to walk into his trap. Why? Probably because he had been watching wrestling on TV and thought, hmm.... I could do that! I don't buy the big kid's story at all. If you're frightened when someone is bullying you, the last thing on your mind is to wait until the bully has his back turned then pick him up and slam him. While the small kid is a total twit, the big kid will turn out to be a thug, mark my words.

The problem is that when people look at something like this, they interpret it through a whole range of personal and emotional filters, obscuring the truth. Good lesson for stock trading. Do you see "what is" or what you want or fear?

 

[wayneL]

Interesting point of view GB.

Are we watching the same video?

 

[Greg]

Parts of this filming were a little too stage managed. Clearly there was a degree of preparation before the incident took place, so who knows who said what to whom. The upshot is that the "worm that turned" elements appealed to a lot of people who saw the victim turn the tables on the protagonist. The underlying issues though is more of a challenge. Until parents and teachers agree that discipline is the responsibility of both parties, at school and at home, and overdone political correctness is replaced with a common sense model, then maybe we can see this kind of behaviour diminish.
Do kids really need mobile phones at school? No, they don't. Remove the filming ability from the equation and suddenly the attention seeker loses his/her audience and therefore his/her interest in being filmed. No fame, no gain?

 

[Gringotts Bank]

Interesting point of view GB.

Are we watching the same video?

Wayne he's standing there with his arms by his side as the kid dances in front of him like Ali. If someone is threatening you, the moment they come close, your arms will come up in front of you automatically..... unless you're not frightened. Unless you want to pull someone into your trap and practise a little body slam manoeuver you've been dying to use while on camera.

 

[Ageo]

Wayne he's standing there with his arms by his side as the kid dances in front of him like Ali. If someone is threatening you, the moment they come close, your arms will come up in front of you automatically..... unless you're not frightened. Unless you want to pull someone into your trap and practise a little body slam manoeuver you've been dying to use while on camera.

Banks i forgot you knew everything about self defence and combat stances......

Mate i wish i knew everything like you.......

Do you have any kids?

 

[Gringotts Bank]

Mate i wish i knew everything like you.......

I've been making some very good calls lately. You should tune in.

 

[wayneL]

Wayne he's standing there with his arms by his side as the kid dances in front of him like Ali. If someone is threatening you, the moment they come close, your arms will come up in front of you automatically..... unless you're not frightened. Unless you want to pull someone into your trap and practise a little body slam manoeuver you've been dying to use while on camera.

So the kid is lying when he says he's been bullied for three years? And the little bloke's mates weren't there goading him on? He didn't get punched in the face beforehand? He didn't walk away when he thought he could?

Are you a lawyer?