Random thought thread

Tink · 19 February 2016

Hanging off a building or a bridge is a bit different to ground work.

At the freeway overpass, cars were travelling under them, while they were hanging mid air.

You are putting others at risk, not just yourself, in my view.

Smurf1976 · 19 February 2016

The right to protest in a reasonable manner is critical to democracy in my view.

Over the years people have made their point about everything from wars to dams to mining to humanitarian issues. I see no problem with such activities provided that it is done in a manner that doesn't put anyone, particularly those not involved in the protest, in danger.

bellenuit · 21 February 2016

I don't want to start a new thread just for this, but I am stunned by claims originally made by a pharmaceutical retailers spokesman and repeated by Channel 9 News (Perth) tonight. Is rank stupidity now the norm?

It relates to the new scheme whereby pharmacists are able to discount the cost of a prescription subsidised through the Government’s Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme by $1. When originally introduced I heard a pharmaceutical retailers spokesman and tonight the Channel 9 newsreader also said that consumers "should be aware of the downside that this discount will mean it takes longer to reach the pharmaceutical safety net threshold". The threshold; $1,475.50 for general families and $372 for concession card holders; is the level that if reached in a calendar year subsequent prescription drug costs will drop to $6.20 (general) or $0 (concession) respectively per prescription.

How is that a negative? If the drugs were completely free one would never reach the threshold, so would that be a disaster? There is absolutely no way you can do the mathematics and conclude that anyone would be worse off if the discount is applied. In every case you are better off with the discount.

wayneL · 21 February 2016

Smurf1976 said:
The right to protest in a reasonable manner is critical to democracy in my view.

Democracy <> Liberty.

The former USSR was a democracy (using the strictest definition) with very little liberty, indeed the current Russian has shown that the liberty to protest is questionable.

Don't confuse the two concepts, We need to defend liberty as strongly as deomocracy

Tink · 22 February 2016

Good on you, Andrew Bolt.

Cardinal George Pell is the victim of one of the most vicious witch hunts to disgrace this country. It is shameful. Disgusting. Frightening.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_crucifying_pell/

Victoria has become a shambles.

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An interesting comment....

Where investigations into old allegations vs (Cardinal Pell/Bill Shorten) is (a witch hunt/justice at last) if you're (right/left).

pixel · 22 February 2016

bellenuit said:
I don't want to start a new thread just for this, but I am stunned by claims originally made by a pharmaceutical retailers spokesman and repeated by Channel 9 News (Perth) tonight. Is rank stupidity now the norm?

It relates to the new scheme whereby pharmacists are able to discount the cost of a prescription subsidised through the Government’s Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme by $1. When originally introduced I heard a pharmaceutical retailers spokesman and tonight the Channel 9 newsreader also said that consumers "should be aware of the downside that this discount will mean it takes longer to reach the pharmaceutical safety net threshold". The threshold; $1,475.50 for general families and $372 for concession card holders; is the level that if reached in a calendar year subsequent prescription drug costs will drop to $6.20 (general) or $0 (concession) respectively per prescription.

How is that a negative? If the drugs were completely free one would never reach the threshold, so would that be a disaster? There is absolutely no way you can do the mathematics and conclude that anyone would be worse off if the discount is applied. In every case you are better off with the discount.

Let me guess, bellenuit: You went to school when/ where "the three R's" were taught. For at least two generations, that is no longer the case in nearly all Australian schools, approaching certainty by now.
As a result, ignorance has been working its way up into all ranks of the workforce, including journalists.

SirRumpole · 22 February 2016

Tink said:
Good on you, Andrew Bolt.

Cardinal George Pell is the victim of one of the most vicious witch hunts to disgrace this country. It is shameful. Disgusting. Frightening.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_crucifying_pell/

Victoria has become a shambles.

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An interesting comment....

Where investigations into old allegations vs (Cardinal Pell/Bill Shorten) is (a witch hunt/justice at last) if you're (right/left).

Pell was one of the people who moved pedophile priests around parishes instead of sacking them outright.

He's one of the causes of the problem and needs to face up to it.

Tink · 22 February 2016

Well I could say the same thing about Bill Shorten.....

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The contrast between how Pell is treated and the Shorten allegations is quite instructive.

In the case of Shorten the media and authorities actively colluded to suppress the investigation and allegations whilst with Pell the case is tried through the media without any regard for due process.

A sad indictment for our justice system and probably more importantly journalists in this country.

McLovin · 22 February 2016

I aplaude Andrew Bolt. It takes some real mental gymnastics to defend a priest who shuffled around paedophile priests while also slinging a few rocks at Bill Shorten, and all in the same opinion piece.

I must have underestimated the clown.

basilio · 22 February 2016

McLovin said:
I aplaude Andrew Bolt. It takes some real mental gymnastics to defend a priest who shuffled around paedophile priests while also slinging a few rocks at Bill Shorten, and all in the same opinion piece.

I must have underestimated the clown.

Never underestimate Andrew Bolts capacity to turn black into any colour he wants it to be.

But I do agree that whatever the Victoria Police are investigating about George Pell should stay inhouse until formal announcements can be made. It's just ugly to see pre emptive statements.
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I did notice that Cardinal Pell did try to side step the allegations by suggesting they the were about the the Southwell inquiry.They wern't .

SirRumpole · 22 February 2016

Andrew Bolt ? said:
whilst with Pell the case is tried through the media without any regard for due process.

Doesn't that fool Bolt realise that a Royal Commission is due process ?

pixel · 22 February 2016

Jesuits turned sophistry, lying, and side-stepping into an art form.
Google seems to suggest that George Pell, just like Tony Abbott and the current Pope, has enjoyed a Jesuit upbringing. Maybe Andrew Bolt caught the same disease?

Tisme · 23 February 2016

Tink said:
Well I could say the same thing about Bill Shorten.....

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The contrast between how Pell is treated and the Shorten allegations is quite instructive.

In the case of Shorten the media and authorities actively colluded to suppress the investigation and allegations whilst with Pell the case is tried through the media without any regard for due process.

A sad indictment for our justice system and probably more importantly journalists in this country.

I think you are drawing a long bow on this occasion Tink. The depravity of kiddy fiddling is beyond the pale.

Bill Shorten was exonerated because he played within the law. It may not be agreeable to your politics, but that is the way it is, just like we all smelled fish when Howard's front bench were found out, but not prosecuted, why Malcolm Turbull was not charged for inducing a public servant to falsify emails in relation to the Labor PM at the time. However if any of them were complicit in exposing children to sexual violation they would be expected to feel the full weight of the law (unless it's Nauru, then it's different because those kids aren't worth a nickel).

I still recall Pell V Dawkins on QANDA http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s3469101.htm

If wannabe Pope Pell is implicated and found guilty I think the population would think it just another day of Religion persecuting innocents..... nothing could ever gazump the loss of innocence many of us felt when Rolf was found out.

luutzu · 23 February 2016

Tisme said:
I think you are drawing a long bow on this occasion Tink. The depravity of kiddy fiddling is beyond the pale.

Bill Shorten was exonerated because he played within the law. It may not be agreeable to your politics, but that is the way it is, just like we all smelled fish when Howard's front bench were found out, but not prosecuted, why Malcolm Turbull was not charged for inducing a public servant to falsify emails in relation to the Labor PM at the time. However if any of them were complicit in exposing children to sexual violation they would be expected to feel the full weight of the law (unless it's Nauru, then it's different because those kids aren't worth a nickel).

I still recall Pell V Dawkins on QANDA http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s3469101.htm

If wannabe Pope Pell is implicated and found guilty I think the population would think it just another day of Religion persecuting innocents..... nothing could ever gazump the loss of innocence many of us felt when Rolf was found out.

Another deep thought there O'Grady.

Tisme · 23 February 2016

luutzu said:
Another deep thought there O'Grady.

And not even whisky in sight.

Gringotts Bank · 23 February 2016

Random thoughts...

Why don't those who run sandwich bars call themselves sandwichstas? Why don't they slick their hair back, wear 3/4 pants and grow Ned Kelly beards like their coffee counterparts?

Making a good coffee doesn't require some enormous skill set. Anyone can do it.

luutzu · 23 February 2016

Tisme said:
And not even whisky in sight.

Imagine how much deeper the insights would have been if Jack was around ey?

Tisme · 23 February 2016

Gringotts Bank said:
Random thoughts...

Why don't those who run sandwich bars call themselves sandwichstas? Why don't they slick their hair back, wear 3/4 pants and grow Ned Kelly beards like their coffee counterparts?

Making a good coffee doesn't require some enormous skill set. Anyone can do it.

There's something kinda thrilling watching a gorilla make food and drink. It's like watching Darwin's ghost in play

SirRumpole · 24 February 2016

Eyeball tattooing, of of the silliest things to do to your body that I've heard of.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-23/eyeball-tattooing-dangerous-says-tattoo-artist/7193942

luutzu · 24 February 2016

SirRumpole said:
Eyeball tattooing, of of the silliest things to do to your body that I've heard of.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-23/eyeball-tattooing-dangerous-says-tattoo-artist/7193942

I guess you're only young once, but there are two eyeballs.

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