Hi guys,
This is based on a US option trade, but just wondering if it happens here in our Commsecs and eTrades.
So here it goes:
About a month ago, I opened a bear call spread position on GOOG (google), anticipating a bear trend on the stock. The credit trade consisted of a short May 380 call, and a long May 390 call (for a credit of 5 points).
As the days went by closer to expiration date, the stock price rose against my bearish outlook.
However this didn't phase me, I already knew my max risk. By expiration the trade was out of the money, and I would have accepted my max loss of 5 points.
Then Monday came, and as it turns out, the stock closed on Friday @ EXACTLY 390.
This means that although the short call was exercised at 380, the long call I had expired worthless. I was now sitting on 100 short stocks!
To top that off, I was margin called during the weekend (how convenient), so my short shares were placed on market order, GOOG opened up this morning @ 394 ...
So there goes my max risk out the window. Went from 5 points to 9 points!
Had GOOG opened up at 400+.... I would have been in deep deep trouble.
So as it turns out, the long options that are supposed to cover our short options aren't so protective at all!
Anyone have any insight on this?
Hi guys,
This is based on a US option trade, but just wondering if it happens here in our Commsecs and eTrades.
So here it goes:
About a month ago, I opened a bear call spread position on GOOG (google), anticipating a bear trend on the stock.
Not being an options man, I can't make any worthwhile comment on the options side of your trade.
The credit trade consisted of a short May 380 call, and a long May 390 call (for a credit of 5 points).
...
Then Monday came, and as it turns out, the stock closed on Friday @ EXACTLY 390.
This means that although the short call was exercised at 380, the long call I had expired worthless. I was now sitting on 100 short stocks!
Yeah,
This phenomenon is call pin risk, the stock closes at exactly the strike and assignment may or may not happen, it can happen with any broker.
Assignment it’s outside of the brokers hands, it’s actually a random selection by the options clearing house. (random in the sense that if open interest was 1000 and the stock was pinned to the strike but only 100 contracts were exercised. One would assume that all ITM options are assigned so that wouldn't be so random)
As the saying goes "If you can't spot the sucker in the first 30 minutes, then you ARE the sucker!"
...OK, so on Friday you knew you were going to be short Google at 380, right?
So, why didn't you buy the shares on Friday to cover your risk? Or, why didn't you exercise the call at 390 which also would have covered your risk? Were you happy to be short over the weekend? Looks like to me you decided to punt on buying in your short Google share position at a price lower than 390, right?
Hi guys,
Then Monday came, and as it turns out, the stock closed on Friday @ EXACTLY 390.
So as it turns out, the long options that are supposed to cover our short options aren't so protective at all!
Anyone have any insight on this?
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