Hello money tree,money tree said:thanks for clarifying that Margeret.
Ive used 3 different brokers and in each case Ive never had to say squat about exercising, which we can assume means its automatic for them. I know there are some brokers who dont charge $4k in brokerage for buying & selling $300k worth of FPOs but its rare. Its this huge cost that I based my argument on, so it really does depend on which broker you use. This cost can be a huge surprise and is an important point. I also didnt realise it was hypothetical mechanics rather than practical. My bad.
As for ASX articles, they have a funny habit of "inventing" very similar strategies after I publish mine......
hi everyone
I purchased some Lincoln Mineral Shares a couple of weeks ago and after taking a look at the prospectus I found this:
At this stage, an issue of 1 free Option for
every 2 Shares held by Shareholders on the
register is intended to be made some three
months after Listing on ASX. The Options
will be exercisable at 30 cents each and will
expire 3 years from the date of issue.
I bought 10,000 shares and Lincoln opened on the stock market on the 9th of March.
Does this mean that on the 9th of June (3 months after opening) I will receive an additional 5,000 shares which I will be able to sell at any price over 30 cents?
The offer is this...
Within 3 months of listing (so by June 9) shareholders who are registered as such on the books of Lincoln Minerals at a given day in that 3 month period will be eligible to received the 1 for 2 option offer.
That means you would received 5000 options for no cost.
The option allows you to buy another 5000 LML shares at 30c between being issued the options and the expiry date of the options.
If they list the options on the ASX you can choose to sell the options also, and generally they would have some value above the difference between LML shares and the 30c to be paid (time value for the option)
They will announce the day in advance, so people who want it can get in, this should push LML share price up. If the other stocks that have done this are any guide.
Snake,What determines the premium in a covered call?
eg; 5,000 x $0.38 = $1,900
Where does the $0.38 come from?
5000 shares purchased at $9.00 and the price is now $13.07.
Will sell at $14.00.
The premium is $0.38. How is this calculated?
Snake,
When you sell a $14 call option over those shares, you are obliged to sell your shares to the call buyer for $14, if he calls your shares.
Obviously, he will only do that if the shares are trading for greater than $14 at option expiry. Your share could be trading at $18 as an example, so in this case you have lost $3.42 in opportunity cost.
You want to be paid for this risk, that is what the call premium is.
The amount you get paid for taking this risk will depend on the markets perception of this risk of the call expiring in the money (> $14)
* The closer the current price is to $14, the greater the risk of it expiring at > $14, the higher the call price.
* The greater time till expiry, the greater the risk of it expiring at > $14, the higher the call price. (also the greater your carrying costs are)
* The more volatile the share, the greater the risk of it expiring at > $14, the higher the call price.
This is all calculated via an option pricing model (Cox, Ross & Rubinstein for American style options usually) of which the inputs are:
Current share price
Strike price
Time till expiry
Risk free interest rates
Dividends
Volatility
... to give the theoretical option price.
As the volatility input is an estimate of future volatility, the option price may vary from *your* theoretical price and it is ultimately governed by price discovery via the bid and ask. The price will therefore generally be the result of the consensus of forward volatility by the marketplace as a whole. (Or in the absence of actual traders the market makers).
* The closer the current price is to $14, the greater the risk of it expiring at > $14, the higher the call price.
* The greater time till expiry, the greater the risk of it expiring at > $14, the higher the call price. (also the greater your carrying costs are)
* The more volatile the share, the greater the risk of it expiring at > $14, the higher the call price.
yesHi Wayne,
Thanks for the detailed reply.
So the risk premium is a combination of this:
Current share price
Strike price
Time till expiry
Risk free interest rates
Dividends
Volatility
Have I understood this?
For clarification.Pls replace "higher the call price" with "higher the premium"
Hello Snake,Hi Wayne,
Thanks for the detailed reply.
So the risk premium is a combination of this:
Current share price
Strike price
Time till expiry
Risk free interest rates
Dividends
Volatility
Have I understood this?
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