I don't read a lot of the threads so thanks for mentioning the nickel equities you are following at ASF.Obviously you don't read the stock threads, many threads have been going on about this for the last 12 months, maybe spend some time out of general chat.
Not being funny, but honestly we have been saying nickel is the boom commodity for ages.
Check the nickel threads, MCR, WSA, NIC etc
Adding to the nickel for EVs theme is this recent graphic:
Presently around 4% of nickel is diverted to the battery sector as a whole, as distinct from solely EVs.
My belief is that the chart above is way too conservative in outyears.
First, the counter intuitive is occurring with luxury vehicles, which have been very quick off the mark to get new models out as EVs. There's a few reasons.
First, many are not just high end, they were also very fast. But Teslas are literally outpacing them, so that's one aspect of appeal that is now lost.
Secondly, as Teslas have proven, EVs can pack a massive amount of technology into a vehicle that gives you the option of almost carefree driving in luxury, or maxing out the responsiveness of the car at "normal" speeds.
Thirdly, and perhaps the biggie, luxury car owners don't like losing a fortune on their new purchase, and the resale vale of ICE luxury vehicles is extremely likely to plummet.
At the "average" buyer level, and perhaps more speculatively, I have a suspicion the "iphone" effect will bite more quickly than most anticipate. That is, EVs are not just a novelty, they are a step change in technology AND safety. Furthermore, while they might be a fair bit more expensive now as an upfront purchase, running costs will compensate if you hold the cars for a longer term than usual. All the more compelling when the car you have today will have a poor resale value in a few years time.
At the bus fleet level, China leads the world in electrification. Given western world concerns about CO2 emissions, it's not too hard for local municipalities and governments to mandate CO2-free public transport.
I'm ambivalent on the heavy vehicle sector as I see hydrogen as the better option down the track; a bit like a re-run of the Beta v's VHS competition which saw VHS win because it ran longer and cost less.
Back onto metal supply, its producers of nickel sulphide concentrate for the EV battery sector which will outperform in coming years, and this is not the type of nickel that has been coming out of Indonesia or the Philippines. I see a reasonable chance that this distinction will see nickel prices divide for stainless steel supply and EV batteries respectively.
Adding to the nickel for EVs theme is this recent graphic:
Presently around 4% of nickel is diverted to the battery sector as a whole, as distinct from solely EVs.
My belief is that the chart above is way too conservative in outyears.
First, the counter intuitive is occurring with luxury vehicles, which have been very quick off the mark to get new models out as EVs. There's a few reasons.
First, many are not just high end, they were also very fast. But Teslas are literally outpacing them, so that's one aspect of appeal that is now lost.
Secondly, as Teslas have proven, EVs can pack a massive amount of technology into a vehicle that gives you the option of almost carefree driving in luxury, or maxing out the responsiveness of the car at "normal" speeds.
Thirdly, and perhaps the biggie, luxury car owners don't like losing a fortune on their new purchase, and the resale vale of ICE luxury vehicles is extremely likely to plummet.
At the "average" buyer level, and perhaps more speculatively, I have a suspicion the "iphone" effect will bite more quickly than most anticipate. That is, EVs are not just a novelty, they are a step change in technology AND safety. Furthermore, while they might be a fair bit more expensive now as an upfront purchase, running costs will compensate if you hold the cars for a longer term than usual. All the more compelling when the car you have today will have a poor resale value in a few years time.
At the bus fleet level, China leads the world in electrification. Given western world concerns about CO2 emissions, it's not too hard for local municipalities and governments to mandate CO2-free public transport.
I'm ambivalent on the heavy vehicle sector as I see hydrogen as the better option down the track; a bit like a re-run of the Beta v's VHS competition which saw VHS win because it ran longer and cost less.
Back onto metal supply, its producers of nickel sulphide concentrate for the EV battery sector which will outperform in coming years, and this is not the type of nickel that has been coming out of Indonesia or the Philippines. I see a reasonable chance that this distinction will see nickel prices divide for stainless steel supply and EV batteries respectively.
Good luck tin hatI went long on nickel miners and prospectors a few months ago. I hold ARL (talk about volatile I was up 80% in 72 hours and am now underwater), CZI (disappointing market sentiment due to delay in PFS), IGO (Gold an nickel producer), MCR (volatile, done OK trading this), SGQ and WSA.
Good luck tin hat
I see the LME nickel stockpile closed at 98kt nickel on Friday, the lowest since April 2012.
From 16 September 2019 the LME nickel stockpile has fallen by 68Kt or 41%, that’s got to be good fundamentals or am I missing something?
The price of nickel has taken a real hammering, since the outbreak, as you say demand for stainless and vehicles has taken a real hit.I still think the Aussie nickel plays are one of the big risks. The overwhelming majority of nickel is used in stainless and that's not exactly a high performer in bad economic times. (You would think 99% goes to Tesla batteries reading what others say). Lots of SS used in cars - but not going to be seeing people buy new cars - especially electric ones when oil is this low. I think the A$ with strengthen vs USD as well to offset any nickel gains which could occur once the world sees Australia is far better shape than everyone else. People have been waiting a decade plus for nickel to rocket up. It wont. Indo nickel ban and electric cars are irrelevant.
PAN didnt reject the offer, IGO withdrew it after due dilligence, obviously a good move.Nickel never really came back after the gfc like a lot of people expected. I think $5 -$6 is the new standard. Low grade low tonne mines wont cut it as investment grade.
We now see Panoramic shelving things - which was entirely predictable before corona. Will mincore and wsa be next to can their projects? Or will their mines hit production for a recovery? I still believe that there is no long-term investment money to be made in WA nickel until there is massive consolidation. If they could merge 3 of these players in to one - 5 to 10 m saved in exec and board fees. All the support services would be combined for a few million in savings. Capex and production profiles could be staged and optimized.
Interesting to know if PAN will be in the legal hot seat for rejecting the igo offer.
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