NDIS

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The NDIS cleanout continues.

NDIS gets $1b injection to slow growth even as budget slides into deficit

New ways of assessing people for NDIS support will add to a series of changes that are slowing growth of the $47 billion scheme but also revoking people’s plans at higher rates.

www.theage.com.au

The federal government will spend $1 billion as it reboots assessments for the National Disability Insurance Scheme after years of argument about who should qualify for support, scaling up the key agencies charged with bringing its spiralling costs under control.

The investment in 1000 more staff and a crackdown on NDIS fraud are part of a broader spending program to be revealed in Wednesday’s mid-year budget update, adding to a series of changes that are slowing the growth of the $47 billion scheme but also revoking people’s plans at higher rates.

With the budget sliding into years of deficits after two years of surplus, the government is anxious to scale back growth in the NDIS, having been warned that spending was on track to reach $97 billion a year within a decade. The $47 billion scheme is due to grow 12 per cent this financial year after peaking at 23 per cent in the final year of Coalition government

The scheme’s actuary says the government is on track to limit annual growth of the NDIS to 8 per cent, down from about 20 per cent in recent years, but Labor says more staff and technology support are needed to enact major changes.

Under NDIS Minister Bill Shorten’s reboot, people will have to complete a new needs-based assessment before receiving a capped budget that lasts up to five years but has strict limits on how much can be spent a year.

The agency is reassessing about 1200 participants a week, with almost half of them moving off the NDIS as a result. Most are children, and officials say almost 80 per cent of children are exiting the scheme when they’re reassessed, easing a massive source of budget pressure.

A further $4.5 million in Wednesday’s budget update will go into designing an early intervention pathway for the NDIS so that children with mild autism and developmental delays are more easily identified and moved onto supports outside the scheme.

@sptrawler I guess the changes are better late than never.
Though I would have thought that Blind Freddy would have been able to see the rorts and thieving that was taking place over the years.

 

[sptrawler]

@sptrawler I guess the changes are better late than never.
Though I would have thought that Blind Freddy would have been able to see the rorts and thieving that was taking place over the years.

There is one thing knowing it is happening, it is a completely different story when trying to address it, then it can quite quickly be called a rabid attack on those most needy and vulnerable in society.

It is like everything these days, the media can present it in whichever light they chose.

It certainly needed to happen and it wasn't before time, but the coalition wouldn't have been able to do it without a massive backlash, that's exactly why our system of Govt works both sides have their strong suits and weak suits and get flipped often,

 

[Bellcose]

Though I would have thought that Blind Freddy would have been able to see the rorts and thieving that was taking place over the years.

Part of the issue with any initiatives is that not everyone is going to be a winner and those who aren't don't like that. From their perspective changes are unfair and detrimental. Probably not going to change their attitude no matter how valid the counter arguments are and the Government will have to wear the odium.

 

[DB008]

Over the festive period l spoke to someone who is involved in the health industry, they know a Physio making $1.5m a year off the NDIS.

 

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Over the festive period l spoke to someone who is involved in the health industry, they know a Physio making $1.5m a year off the NDIS.

The thieving banks have nothing like this bod

 

[sptrawler]

MSN

www.msn.com

Here are some key figures reflecting the impact of these changes:

・$60 billion: Total budget reduction over the next decade.

・$500 million: Immediate savings targeted for the next fiscal year.

・1,000 reassessments per week: Volume of reviews being conducted on participants, with most notifications sent via automated letters.

・48%: Proportion of 7 and 8-year-old children reassessed and removed from the program in recent weeks.

・60%: Reported funding cuts for services like autism support, as noted by advocacy groups.

 

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MSN

www.msn.com

Here are some key figures reflecting the impact of these changes:

・$60 billion: Total budget reduction over the next decade.

・$500 million: Immediate savings targeted for the next fiscal year.

・1,000 reassessments per week: Volume of reviews being conducted on participants, with most notifications sent via automated letters.

・48%: Proportion of 7 and 8-year-old children reassessed and removed from the program in recent weeks.

・60%: Reported funding cuts for services like autism support, as noted by advocacy groups.

@sptrawler well something has to happen to slow/stop this runaway train.
Perhaps more audits on those supplying services and proof that the money is being used as it should be.

 

[houtman]

From our member for social services.

It's worse than I imagined.
How can just over 20% of the population have a disability?

 

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From our member for social services.

It's worse than I imagined.
How can just over 20% of the population have a disability?


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@houtman WHAT 20% of Australians are on the NDIS benevolent fund.
Crickey how do I join in with this lot.
For sure there are definitely deserving people who certainly need help, but I do wonder how much of a rort is this scheme.
The only positive with the NDIS is that near on useless form Member of Parliament W Shorten has gone.
It is to be hoped that the replacement Minister will start doing a Trump and sort out those who are rorting this service.

 

[sptrawler]

Even after Bill's slash and burn, the NDIS is obviously a big problem, which IMO is another reason Labor need another term in office.
The Coalition would have no hope of reigning in NDIS spending, the media would be all over them.

MSN

Ndis Spending to Remain in Focus​

Another point of contention was the future growth of the National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS). Chalmers faced increasing pressure from independent MP Allegra Spender to curtail the program’s rapid expansion, which saw a 20 per cent growth in expenditure last year.

Spender called for more stringent fiscal controls, pointing out that the NDIS could risk losing public support if spending growth remains unchecked. However, Chalmers has rejected these suggestions, reaffirming Labor’s commitment to ensuring the NDIS remains both sustainable and effective.

Chalmers argued that while growth in NDIS spending needs to be managed, the government’s focus remains on cracking down on fraudulent providers and ensuring that funds are used efficiently.

He also noted that the NDIS, which provides crucial support to Australians with disabilities, was always intended to grow but must be made sustainable over time to continue its critical work. According to Chalmers, the government is already taking steps to curb waste and improve the program’s long-term sustainability.


In sum, while Chalmers’ refusal to consider additional tax cuts or cuts to the NDIS may have disappointed some, he remains resolute in his belief that the current agenda is sufficient to meet Australia’s economic challenges.

 

[JohnDe]

Even after Bill's slash and burn, the NDIS is obviously a big problem, which IMO is another reason Labor need another term in office.
The Coalition would have no hope of reigning in NDIS spending, the media would be all over them.

With Albanese running around the country throwing money at everything that he thinks will garner him more votes, you think the Labor Party is going to risk the wrath of 25% of Australian's on the NDIS for the following election?

 

[sptrawler]

Another example of the downside with outsourcing everything, you also outsource a lot of the overseeing.

From taxi driver to mansion owner: How a suspected fraudster built an empire

On the western outskirts of Melbourne, where the paddocks meet new homes, lies the centre of an alleged NDIS fraudster's network.

www.abc.net.au

 

[JohnDe]

Another example of the downside with outsourcing everything, you also outsource a lot of the overseeing.

From taxi driver to mansion owner: How a suspected fraudster built an empire

On the western outskirts of Melbourne, where the paddocks meet new homes, lies the centre of an alleged NDIS fraudster's network.

www.abc.net.au

I don't believe that outsourcing is the whole problem, but I do think that poor policy, management and distribution of resources by government is.

The SA Child Care services has been in the news for over a decade, with no outsourcing. Don't fall for government and union spiel that they know best all the time and are faultless.

• New data reveals ‘harrowing’ level of abuse against South Australian children in state care
• Child protection data reveals 33 pregnancies among girls living in SA state care between mid-2021 and mid-2024
• Department for Child Protection complaints process 'generally sound' despite 'toxic culture' claims
• Seven more girls found to be pregnant in state care in South Australia
• Report on Government Services 2025. 16 Child protection services
• Questions unanswered as child protection authorities refuse to release information about death of 3yo in SA
• Carer group speaks out as hundreds of calls to Department for Child Protection abuse line go unanswered
• Newborn babies removed at SA maternity hospital in 'unethical' and 'distressing' breach of government policy
• Child Protection failed baby boy, South Australian coroner finds
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[moXJO]

Ok so was talking to a friend of mine who mentioned he was arguing with a guy he knows for rorting the ndis. He said that he is in no way, shape, or form disabled.
He somehow got on a $60k package a year and trying to blast through it before the election.

Now the argument was over this guy getting limousines to the pub or to go shopping. He's one of those shtstains on society whose reasoning is that "someone else will do it if I don’t". My mate had the shts because he actually has a bad back.

The more I talk to people the worse the stories get. Ndis needs to be sunk altogether and redone to debilitating physical impairment or severe mental illness.

 

[macca]

Ok so was talking to a friend of mine who mentioned he was arguing with a guy he knows for rorting the ndis. He said that he is in no way, shape, or form disabled.
He somehow got on a $60k package a year and trying to blast through it before the election.

Now the argument was over this guy getting limousines to the pub or to go shopping. He's one of those shtstains on society whose reasoning is that "someone else will do it if I don’t". My mate had the shts because he actually has a bad back.

The more I talk to people the worse the stories get. Ndis needs to be sunk altogether and redone to debilitating physical impairment or severe mental illness.

My family was involved in it from day one and before it even started those in the industry said what a F*** up

 

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https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/unhealthy-trend-wave-of-ndis-financial-collapses-hit-home/news-story/e8b053cf3f8afcd51f545abcd3a162a9

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NDIS operators are increasingly facing tough times.
NDIS providers are going bust in increasing numbers as inexperienced operators fail to cope with rising costs and the increasing complexity of the national disability scheme.

 

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https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/unhealthy-trend-wave-of-ndis-financial-collapses-hit-home/news-story/e8b053cf3f8afcd51f545abcd3a162a9

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May 25, 2025 - 4:56PM
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NDIS operators are increasingly facing tough times.
NDIS providers are going bust in increasing numbers as inexperienced operators fail to cope with rising costs and the increasing complexity of the national disability scheme.

For them perhaps the Golden Goose isn't so Golden after all.

 

[sptrawler]

For them perhaps the Golden Goose isn't so Golden after all.

It is just another great Government idea, that every scammer can tap into.
Don't worry the goose will have laid plenty of golden eggs and it aint dead yet.

It would be great to have a mega Royal Commission, into all the Government initiatives since 1980 and how many Government officials made a fortune from them IMO.

 

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It is just another great Government idea, that every scammer can tap into.
Don't worry the goose will have laid plenty of golden eggs and it aint dead yet.

It would be great to have a mega Royal Commission, into all the Government initiatives since 1980 and how many Government officials made a fortune from them IMO.

@sptrawler Unfortunately as good as that sounds pigs will have fly past first before any politician is brought to account for having a snout in the never ending money trough.

 

[sptrawler]

@sptrawler Unfortunately as good as that sounds pigs will have fly past first before any politician is brought to account for having a snout in the never ending money trough.

Sad but true.