wayneL
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Well Robbee, only one of those causes seems to be in question and looks likely to be tested in court.
We shall see.
We shall see.
Funny how the players who did not sing the anthem on the fields have not been involved in a similar sacking
On the field,, not on their own time expressing a potentially divisive political view
So definitively a politically biaised sacking, funny how no one raised that issue..maybe someone did..did not follow too closely
Once you "clock off", the employer *should* have no control over you and your life is your own.
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Other wise you are a slave
Israel Folau Takes Part In Ancient Christian Tradition Of Crowd-Funding His Own Salary
CLANCY OVERELL | Editor | CO
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/bre...249578206&mc_cid=6d67485865&mc_eid=811d5aa322
They haven’t taken away his right to say what he wants, they have just exercised their right to not be associated with him if he says things that hurt their brand.
I pay a more than fair amount of taxes as a rich bastard who dares to earn more than the minimum wage for free healthcare and hospital,
I pay a more than fair amount of taxes as a rich bastard who dares to earn more than the minimum wage for free healthcare and hospital,
on the other hand, I do not give anything to churches..as really, this is what is threatened: faith.
I am a non believer so I would fight against my taxes being spent on churches..and I actually do, for chaplains etc
But on the other hand, knowing we are spending 50 billions on obsolete even before design submarines, I will not give a cent for extra funding to Australian hospitals, or welfare: salvos etc:
donations for me are O/S, animals and nature, which are not gov funded.
In summary: I would feel right, as a believer if I was one, to donate to Folau
If it is your money, do what you want with it, and faith is a bloody good reason to believe in a cause in my opinion
Here we start to silence what is the basis of our civilization whether you like it or not, and under what, the pretense of freedom?
Folau signed a document that related to his employment in that he represented Rugby, and agreed to abide by a code of conduct which, if not followed, was detrimental to his teammates and the game. That code applied both on and off the field. Folau does not go off the clock after a game, or after training, with respect to the code he agreed to and which was fundamental to his employment in every regard.The point is really not just about religion , but any subject on which the employee chooses to comment on which does not affect the performance of their job.
Personal opinions expressed publicly should not bring any company into disrepute, but reputational damage to the company might see you in hot water.... if your employer doesn't like what you say you can apparently get the sack for "bringing the company into disrepute"
Joyce donated $1m of his own money to the "YES" vote. Separately, QANTAS continues to be proactive in representing minority interests, and its board rightfully should support its CEO in being treated equal to others in the community.... Alan Joyce can use the resources of his company's shareholders to campaign for his own kind, even though they are a small minority of the population.
No, individuals retain the power of "choice" and should exercise that with some knowledge of consequences. In Alan Joyce's case, he was fighting for the individual to freely choose who they love and could have a right to marry.It's all heading in the direction of diminishing the power of the individual and encouraging group-think.
Folau signed a document that related to his employment in that he represented Rugby, and agreed to abide by a code of conduct which, if not followed, was detrimental to his teammates and the game. That code applied both on and off the field. Folau does not go off the clock after a game, or after training, with respect to the code he agreed to and which was fundamental to his employment in every regard.
Personal opinions expressed publicly should not bring any company into disrepute, but reputational damage to the company might see you in hot water.
Joyce donated $1m of his own money to the "YES" vote. Separately, QANTAS continues to be proactive in representing minority interests, and its board rightfully should support its CEO in being treated equal to others in the community.
No, individuals retain the power of "choice" and should exercise that with some knowledge of consequences. In Alan Joyce's case, he was fighting for the individual to freely choose who they love and could have a right to marry.
You have 4 separate issues.You believe Folau brought the ARU into disrepute? Ban David Pocock for shooting animals in Sth Africa while on the ARU payroll too.
Secondly Joyce used Qantas to further the LGBIT cause. The ARU then has been roundly criticized for jumping into the SSM debate and taking one side.
You have 4 separate issues.my comments are in blue lol.
Folau is (was) paid millions of dollars by the ARU to do more than just play rugby union. He was their number 1 pin up boy. He was their role model bought and paid for by the ARU to represent rugby union NOT ANY other code, organisation or church.I don't understand, how someone can be sacked for speaking his mind, unless what he says is illegal.
So he has to sell his religious beliefs, I'm not religious personally, but it seems to be a bit totalitarian to say someone can't voice his dislike of a belief, that has been held for 2000 years.Folau is (was) paid millions of dollars by the ARU to do more than just play rugby union. He was their number 1 pin up boy. He was their role model bought and paid for by the ARU to represent rugby union NOT ANY other code, organisation or church.
He was paid over and above any other player with the full knowledge that he must honour his side of the bargain which was spelt out clearly in the contract. Folau can't be too smart otherwise he should not have signed the contract in the first place. I like the saying "You can't have your cake and eat it (too).
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