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In my humble opinion, the housing crisis is the way it is because the market is dominated by people who want to make the most money they can.The RBA issued a research paper on housing and the rentl crisis.
In what will come as no great surprise to many, it concludes that excessive popu;ation growth is behind it.
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Wow that RE agents per 1000 dwellings figure is illuminating.Overheads always a killer.
Housing having to support Banks via mortgage interest rates, local Government in the form of rates , State Governments in the form of stamp duty on sales, and of course the huge number of real estate agents that need to be kept.
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Also a good opportunity for trades training.Bring back the Housing Commissions of old to provide entry level accommodation
Labor still refuses to acknowledge that it's negative gearing and CGT deductions that are pricing first home buyers out of the market in favour of investors.Jim Chalmers has leaned on the banks to relax some rules on mortgage qualifications.
The bloke is supposed to be pretty smart, so I guess its pretty smart politics.
Whether tis all that smart economically is a moot point.
Why not go further and tell the banks to ignore credit card debt, personal lines of credit, or novated leases on cars.
Not sure if the banks will actually follow up on it, probably does not worry Jim.
its all about the optics.
If indeed it does work, it will put more people into the already long queue for the stock os houses and push prices up further.
It will not help increase the supply side one iota.
Mick
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a house can only be built as fast as councils approve the DA and the tradesman can build it. the price of the property is sold as or rented out at what the market demand is. the hocas poscas labour plan hasnt produced **** yet only continue to have borders opened and no increase in the building supplyJim Chalmers has leaned on the banks to relax some rules on mortgage qualifications.
The bloke is supposed to be pretty smart, so I guess its pretty smart politics.
Whether tis all that smart economically is a moot point.
Why not go further and tell the banks to ignore credit card debt, personal lines of credit, or novated leases on cars.
Not sure if the banks will actually follow up on it, probably does not worry Jim.
its all about the optics.
If indeed it does work, it will put more people into the already long queue for the stock os houses and push prices up further.
It will not help increase the supply side one iota.
Mick
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Equivalent to a drug addict making an excuse to use the drug once more.Jim Chalmers has leaned on the banks to relax some rules on mortgage qualifications.
That would be a reasonable assumption in my opinion.Of a more worrying nature is the fall in firt home buyer loans.
Are they waiting for a fall in interest rates?
This is a societal polarising issue that has to be solved, but the politicians are too scared to do it or have their own snouts in the trough.Where the Housing affordability situation stands from the inside.
Great job, good education, no home: is Australia’s bloated property market destroying the middle class?
A fresh cycle of interest rate cuts have propelled house prices in capital cities to peak levels – locking new buyers out of the market
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Ross Hamilton spends his work days in a laboratory developing treatments for fibrosis. At home, he sets aside as much time as possible to be with his partner, their four-year-old daughter and their baby boy, who was born just a few weeks ago.
The 43-year-old is well educated, works in a cutting-edge industry and is part of a dual-income household. But despite this, the couple cannot afford a family home anywhere near his Sydney workplace or prospective schools as property prices increase at a faster pace than the family can save for a deposit.
“It’s just capitalism gone crazy. A house is no longer a domicile. It’s an investment, and it’s pushed people out who just happened to be born later. That’s all it is,” says Hamilton.
“There’s a huge population now that had a bit of wealth years ago, and they bought property, and then it’s gone up dramatically since then.
“I don’t blame the players. I blame the game.”
Backed by favourable tax arrangements, property has been such a lucrative moneymaker over the past quarter century that affordability has deteriorated faster in Australia than in almost every other comparable country.
Great job, good education, no home: is Australia’s bloated property market destroying the middle class?
A fresh cycle of interest rate cuts have propelled house prices in capital cities to peak levels – locking new buyers out of the marketwww.theguardian.com
The whole mess is caused by too many immigrants in too short a time
Taking a further step back, the reason we're running immigration so hard is in an effort to delay the inevitable demographic shift.The whole mess is caused by too many immigrants in too short a time
that or more babiesTaking a further step back, the reason we're running immigration so hard is in an effort to delay the inevitable demographic shift.
Average age of the Australian population is 38.3 years.
The median age of migrant arrivals in 2023-24 was 27.
Both from ABS data that Google brings up.
So flooding the country with migrants is a means to slow, but not halt, the ageing of the population. Trouble is it's of limited effectiveness given the gap is only 11 years, meaning we need a seriously large number of migrants arriving on a constant basis for it to work.
Far more effective mathematically would be to make our own. That is, for existing Australian women to have a sufficient number of children to stabilise the population. That fixes the demographic problem and does so without constant growth. It's far more potent than immigration since by definition the average age of a child at birth is zero, meaning they're 38.3 years younger than the population versus the comparatively small 11 year gap with migrants.
That then gets into the real issue - the destruction of the family as the core, fundamental unit of society. I'm not advocating we go back to 1950 and lock women in kitchens and I'm not saying we shouldn't accept same sex relationships and so on. But creating a situation where most adults marry and have 2 or 3 children would be a good thing.
The next step back is with relationships and "chicken or egg" argument with housing itself. How to get to a situation where relationships are at least reasonably stable, or at a minimum not seen as a threat, and the issue that people without suitable housing often avoid having children thus continuing the cycle.
I'm not against immigration per se, indeed my own mother was born overseas, but at present Australia's using it in an attempt to offset serious structural problems in society and that just isn't working out at all well. It requires exponential growth to continue and at some point that's not going to happen, the game's up.
With housing such a problem most people simply cannot afford to buy a house then start a familyTaking a further step back, the reason we're running immigration so hard is in an effort to delay the inevitable demographic shift.
Average age of the Australian population is 38.3 years.
The median age of migrant arrivals in 2023-24 was 27.
Both from ABS data that Google brings up.
So flooding the country with migrants is a means to slow, but not halt, the ageing of the population. Trouble is it's of limited effectiveness given the gap is only 11 years, meaning we need a seriously large number of migrants arriving on a constant basis for it to work.
Far more effective mathematically would be to make our own. That is, for existing Australian women to have a sufficient number of children to stabilise the population. That fixes the demographic problem and does so without constant growth. It's far more potent than immigration since by definition the average age of a child at birth is zero, meaning they're 38.3 years younger than the population versus the comparatively small 11 year gap with migrants.
That then gets into the real issue - the destruction of the family as the core, fundamental unit of society. I'm not advocating we go back to 1950 and lock women in kitchens and I'm not saying we shouldn't accept same sex relationships and so on. But creating a situation where most adults marry and have 2 or 3 children would be a good thing.
The next step back is with relationships and "chicken or egg" argument with housing itself. How to get to a situation where relationships are at least reasonably stable, or at a minimum not seen as a threat, and the issue that people without suitable housing often avoid having children thus continuing the cycle.
I'm not against immigration per se, indeed my own mother was born overseas, but at present Australia's using it in an attempt to offset serious structural problems in society and that just isn't working out at all well. It requires exponential growth to continue and at some point that's not going to happen, the game's up.
Absolutely right. And couples are less likely to have children I f they can't afford housing for them.Taking a further step back, the reason we're running immigration so hard is in an effort to delay the inevitable demographic shift.
Average age of the Australian population is 38.3 years.
The median age of migrant arrivals in 2023-24 was 27.
Both from ABS data that Google brings up.
So flooding the country with migrants is a means to slow, but not halt, the ageing of the population. Trouble is it's of limited effectiveness given the gap is only 11 years, meaning we need a seriously large number of migrants arriving on a constant basis for it to work.
Far more effective mathematically would be to make our own. That is, for existing Australian women to have a sufficient number of children to stabilise the population. That fixes the demographic problem and does so without constant growth. It's far more potent than immigration since by definition the average age of a child at birth is zero, meaning they're 38.3 years younger than the population versus the comparatively small 11 year gap with migrants.
That then gets into the real issue - the destruction of the family as the core, fundamental unit of society. I'm not advocating we go back to 1950 and lock women in kitchens and I'm not saying we shouldn't accept same sex relationships and so on. But creating a situation where most adults marry and have 2 or 3 children would be a good thing.
The next step back is with relationships and "chicken or egg" argument with housing itself. How to get to a situation where relationships are at least reasonably stable, or at a minimum not seen as a threat, and the issue that people without suitable housing often avoid having children thus continuing the cycle.
I'm not against immigration per se, indeed my own mother was born overseas, but at present Australia's using it in an attempt to offset serious structural problems in society and that just isn't working out at all well. It requires exponential growth to continue and at some point that's not going to happen, the game's up.
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