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House prices to keep falling for years

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Keen - a "realist" you call him?? More like an "opportunist"! Ie, Just another boring acedemic who has been banging on with the same old story and predictions for a decade. Finally, doom and gloom is selling again, so now that anyone is actually remotely interested in listening there he is milking the media exposure for all it's worth! Makes for great acedemic career qdos.... especially when you are stuck out at UWS.......

Of course generally speaking we all know acedemic economists are sooo good at predicting the future, and the behaviour of markets in particular......

Oh and PS - no conclusions yet that can be backed up by solid ABS or REI price data etc. Many eagerly awaiting to see if their house price crash dreams will be fullfilled though!

Cheers,

Beej
 
Oh and PS - no conclusions yet that can be backed up by solid ABS or REI price data etc. Many eagerly awaiting to see if their house price crash dreams will be fullfilled though!

Official stats are nice but in the end it comes down to what you can negotiate when you buy.

I know of a number of good houses in the best areas i can get for a song so i have my answer.

Going forward Im more interested in market conditions like credit growth, credit availability, and rates/affordability.

I just bought a new car for an absurdly low price last month ... official prices didnt change but ability to negotiate for those with the skill is unprecedented.
 

No question there are some bargains around - I've been looking at a couple of good places in good area's that can be had for a good 10-15% less than they would have sold for last year, but that still only puts them back at 2005/2006 prices. There are still plenty of places selling though if priced correctly (examples posted here and in the other thread). Nothing surprising there though or what I would call a "crash". In fact the conditions right now remind me a great deal of 1990/91, and a little like what happened for about 3-4 months before the olympics and after the GST first came in (2000).

My feeling is the Sydney market in particular is very close to the bottom right now, but it will take a while (2-5 years) before it really moves fast again. We shall see....

Cheers,

Beej
 
House prices will come down just the same as they went up a few % a month.
If we get to depression stage will Rudd et al give out food stamps or go to CentreLink to pick up some loot so every Australian can get our share of the mining boom because there is no other way the average person can get a benefits.
So far ot looks like the USA bail out is going down as there is now a push to bail out commercial sector
 
The shakeout of City boys begins.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...housing-slump-11m-home-repossessed-banks.html

 

You know you already over paid for a new car, it's a bad investment from the start so you already over pay j/k

but I do like my new car as well, it's indefensible investment but you got to spend at some stage

and I enjoy the entertainment in this thread with punch throw here and there .. I like to stay on the side line and watch with this whole property vs shares vs owning vs renting
 
No question there are some bargains around - I've been looking at a couple of good places in good area's that can be had for a good 10-15% less than they would have sold for last year, but that still only puts them back at 2005/2006 prices.

15% on a 2m property is $300 - alot to be saved by waiting out the last 6 months!

And Im sticking with my "property prices back to 2002 levels" position. In my areas the HUGE majority of prices are below the peaks of the boom, although admittedly there are the odd exceptions.
 
I don't know.
I'm worried about my deposits now....
Then move to one of the big four.
 

Play the probability game, if Suncorp goes most banks will be in trouble as well and without seeing the other banks balance sheet you just rely on someone opinion to dictate your decision

you can see the effect of the US already, when one goes belly up it not just one it will be a string of other, who's next? who know.

If moving to the big 4 make you feel safer, then do it otherwise it just another day in the market with news fly left and right.
 

Interesting read, sounds like Mulcahy took Chuck Prince's line "As long as the music is playing, you’ve got to get up and dance" a little too far. Seems he kept dancing after the music stopped.
 
hello,

hows that, the colonel has bought into an investment bank

wacked 6 bil on the table for Goldman, great news

up up and away

thankyou
robots
 
IMF warns Australia on Interest rates.. Not too good for the old investors if interest rates don't plummet back under 7%

p.s. I think the IMF is a little more influential on the RBA than a few overborrowed home-owners.

 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national...-on-edge/2008/09/25/1222217430693.html?page=2

Reminds me of all the folk talking a while back about how we are light years from US Subprime situation (incl RBA Gov).

Whilst we may not have been lending to crack heads, I dont know anyone that has sought a home loan and has not been offered an irresponsible amount of money by ALL banks.

The smart ones didnt take it and the others are toast.

In fact the last mortgage I had on title was $600,000 ... on a PPOR - would be almost $60k a year interest alone now. No thanks old conservative CBA

And whilst the article only refers to the western suburbs, sub prime issues were similarly limited to those types of areas and yet look how it spread through the whole property market and financial market.

No part of the market is immune from other parts - nothing exist in a vaccum.
 
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