Sdajii
Sdaji
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I'm not sure which is better or worse from an environmental point of view, although Western people have been heavily conditioned to view plastic as evil, if it's a straw anyway, but to ignore it in most contexts. Wood and pulp alternatives are also environmentally harmful. The plastic cartons are good in that you can see the eggs which means you don't have to search through the cartons to find one without broken eggs. The plastic bags they're usually sold in are weird though, you need to be careful when taking them home to avoid breaking any.PLASTIC ?1?!
our cardboard cartons are likely made from imported wood pulp ( making packaging costs higher )
Sunrise Eggs "Farm Fresh Eggs" 12 X-Large 700gIs that for fancy ones pretending to be better than the cheap generic ones, or the cheap generic ones?
30 eggs here (they tend to do them in 10, the concept of a dozen isn't a thing here) is about AU$5-7 depending on size. Across the river in Laos they're a bit cheaper. But if you want to buy a fridge or toothbrush or microwave oven etc it'll generally be more expensive than in Australia.
A couple of pictures from my shopping trip at the local market yesterday, I took them while this thread was in my mind. Mostly they're sold in plastic bags, although there are supermarkets which sell them in plastic egg cartons.
I'm gonna hazard a guess that the birds are not free range? If you quarantine the chooks from the outside word, then of course bird 'flu isn't gonna be an issue..... and bird flu isn't an issue. It's mysteriously an issue restricted to countries primarily populated by White people, in three separate corners of the world.
I'm gonna hazard a guess that the birds are not free range? If you quarantine the chooks from the outside word, then of course bird 'flu isn't gonna be an issue.
that seems to be the case , small flocks seem to be unaffected ( or the eggs never get to market so are never tested ,) and cooking SHOULD neutralize the virus , ( and the odd 'suddenly dead ' hen ends up as dinner for the farm dog or cat )I'm gonna hazard a guess that the birds are not free range? If you quarantine the chooks from the outside word, then of course bird 'flu isn't gonna be an issue.
that seems to be the case , small flocks seem to be unaffected ( or the eggs never get to market so are never tested ,) and cooking SHOULD neutralize the virus , ( and the odd 'suddenly dead ' hen ends up as dinner for the farm dog or cat )
it will be interesting to see how they vaccinate against a respiratory virus this timeThis goes against the official narrative. Cooking will 110% kill the virus. Any virus at all including the most heat resistant will be killed before being heated to boiling temperature, and bird flu isn't heat resistant. Most viruses are knocked out by temperatures much above normal body temperature, which is the main reason our bodies heat up (fever) in response to viral infection - many viruses like flu can't cope with it as well as we can, so we can cook the virus out of ourselves without killing ourselves.
It's not normal for flu to be shed into eggs anyway so you could eat them raw without any risk worth being concerned over - you pretty much need direct contact with an infected bird, or something it was in direct contact with immediately before you were, not an egg which had to be collected, packaged, distributed, sat on a shelf, sold, etc.
Even the official story doesn't say bird flu is a relevant risk to humans who buy infected birds or eggs to eat from the supermarket, the issue (according to the narrative) is that the virus will wipe out the flock and before it does, infect other birds, so the entire flock must be exterminated to prevent the spread (to other chicken flocks).
It's quite reminiscent of the Wuhan virus which was going to kill everyone but then only killed the elderly and everyone who caught it just felt somewhere between mildly ill and nasty flu, unless they were on their death bed with cancer, in a car accident or 94 years old, in which case the covid tragically took their lives and is solely responsible for preventing them going on to live forever in prosperity.
It's almost like the dangers of viruses are massively hyped up and if you ignore the propaganda you don't have a problem, and the same people spreading the propaganda make massive amounts of money if people believe it, both directly from the sale of vaccines, and indirectly from any health issues caused by them. It's almost like the medical industry makes more money the more unhealthy people are, and like any system it has a tendency to do what benefits itself...
But as for the bird flu, there is zero doubt that egg production has not been impacted in countries making no effort to deal with it, nowhere has anyone recorded a case of a human catching bird flu from an egg, and there are proposals for mass vaccination of domestic chickens which would make incredible money for pharmaceutical companies.
There are some details of the picture which are unclear, but you don't need to bother joining any dots to see the big picture at this point, just wake up, open your eyes and take a look.
it will be interesting to see how they vaccinate against a respiratory virus this timeon birds to boot !
i wonder if we get to read the press releases on these safety trials
you are an optimist ... of course it will spread to humans , they will have a PCR test to prove it , and the symptoms will be almost like the seasonal flu ( except the unusual death rate , because they died WITH a positive test ) .... maybe Peter Dutton will spread it on a commercial flight just like he did last timeIt will be more ridiculous than last time, but chickens won’t complain and since humans won’t be getting jabbed, even the ones who see what's going on won’t generally care much anyway.
You raise some valid concerns, er, you have some appropriate and no doubt correct insights into the pending disaster and fully appropriate response to it.you are an optimist ... of course it will spread to humans , they will have a PCR test to prove it , and the symptoms will be almost like the seasonal flu ( except the unusual death rate , because they died WITH a positive test ) .... maybe Peter Dutton will spread it on a commercial flight just like he did last time
( but it won't be allowed to stop the elections ... will it ? )
maybe i should watch for the dip and buy extra PFP ( like i bought them in December 2020 @ $3.00 )
and Australia will be touting it's new vaccine facility pumping out jabs for the masses
it MIGHT be more ridiculous , but ridiculous sold heaps last time
Coles completely out early yesterday arvo.UPDATE, here locally... When we shopped at the local IGA where we bought our last lot of two doz eggs recently, there was no restriction on the quantity one could purchase.
Yesterday arvo partner shopped at that very same IGA and said that now, there's signage at the eggs section stating a restriction of two doz per customer.
Egg shortage shows no signs of letting up as supermarkets continue purchase limits
An outbreak of Avian Influenza or bird flu on a small number of properties in Victoria has left Australian shoppers worried that current egg shortages could drag on even longer.
The February bird flu outbreak is separate to the 2024 outbreak that devastated the egg industry and left supermarket shelves bare.
Though that original outbreak has since been contained, the effects are still being felt around the country and supermarkets intend to continue to enforce purchase limits following the latest outbreak.
Rowan McMonnies, managing director of Australian Eggs, told 9News that though the shortages are ongoing it's important to remember that egg supply in Australia has not collapsed.
"The industry is still supplying 18 million eggs every day [and] is recovering well from the 2024 incidents but unfortunately there has been a further outbreak in February which has extended the disruption to egg supply," he said.
"The industry was on track to balance up supply but now there is some further work to do."
McMonnies predicted that, despite this setback, consumers should see relief by the end of the year.
A return to normal supply should also help ease the rise in egg prices, which have spiked by up to 30 per cent over the last six months in some cases.
"As in all industries, prices are driven by supply and demand and it is expected supply issues will ease as the year unfolds," McMonnies said.
A Coles spokesperson confirmed to 9news.com.au that purchase limits on eggs will remain in place as the supermarket giant closely monitors the latest outbreak in Victoria.
"We will continue to work closely with all our suppliers to ensure eggs remain available for our customers," they said.
"To manage availability, we will continue to maintain the purchase limits that have been in place since the first outbreak in Victoria in 2024.
"We kindly ask our customers to consider others in their community and purchase only what they need."
The spokesperson added that Coles will continue to stock egg-alternatives while it works through the current egg industry supply challenges.
Woolworths is taking a similar approach, a spokesperson confirmed to 9news today.
"The 2024 outbreak reduced the number of laying hens in Australia, which unfortunately will take a while longer to rebuild," they said.
"In the meantime, the egg industry has been working to boost supply market-wide.
"Our egg supply has continued to improve and we are working closely with our suppliers to source as many eggs as possible."
9News understands existing purchase limits will remain in place at Woolworths until further notice.
I'm feeling like even more of a millionaire every time I hear about the egg situation, and it inspires me to eat more eggs. The woman I buy my eggs from at the local market and the people in the stalls around her are marvelling at how many I've been buying. Mostly duck (which of course are a small part of the egg market).UPDATE again.
Friends of ours reported a doz Coles 800g eggs cost them $14.00 yesterday.
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