Cricket & Ashes tour - tough times for us?

[RichKid]

Thought I'd start a little cricket thread since I've heard of em doing poorly and it's good to get away from the market sometimes. No panic apparent yet as the Ashes haven't started (that's what really counts). Ghoti, I know you are interested, do you follow the pj game or just the white flannel stuff? Those poms are fielding the way we do and the bowling has improved too, let's hope punter doesn't take this too easily as confidence can really help a tream like England.

 

[dutchie]

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Rich

Maybe the Australian cricket juggernaut is having a correction just like the market did.

With all the talent in the team I'm sure they will come good again. But its good to see the Poms are finally giving us a run for money in the one dayers anyway.

Australia vs Bangaladesh 500 to 1 on - where would you place your stop loss??

Symonds is a bit of a dope, so is Warne (if its true). Why risk your career (and good money) for a little bit of grog and sex. Symonds should have been sent home - I wonder if they would have if Australia would have won all their matches to date?

 

[RichKid]

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Rich

Maybe the Australian cricket juggernaut is having a correction just like the market did.

With all the talent in the team I'm sure they will come good again. But its good to see the Poms are finally giving us a run for money in the one dayers anyway.

Australia vs Bangaladesh 500 to 1 on - where would you place your stop loss??

Symonds is a bit of a dope, so is Warne (if its true). Why risk your career (and good money) for a little bit of grog and sex. Symonds should have been sent home - I wonder if they would have if Australia would have won all their matches to date?

Hi Dutchie,
Yep a sharp correction, have we seen the bottom yet? Sure like the analogy, the odds on the Bangladesh game would be like an deep otm option trade a few days from expiry, all or nothing, bet small. Still can't believe it.
As for Symonds and Warnie, well the himbo has a track record and people just think it's part of his character now but Symonds? It may be that that is just an indication of the team's attitude. They'll really have to wake up to themselves and act like the professionals they used to be. England are putting in 100% and are showing it in the field- what a catch by Collingwood, Haydo couldn't believe it! And then Peitersen! At least it was nice to watch. That gift of a wicket that Martyn made was just the type of thing we used to have the pommies doing. Time to use brains now, I know we can do it, someone needs to give em a good talking to.

 

[RichKid]

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Symonds is a bit of a dope, so is Warne (if its true). Why risk your career (and good money) for a little bit of grog and sex. Symonds should have been sent home - I wonder if they would have if Australia would have won all their matches to date?

Well, since our last discussion Warny's just lost it. About time his wife took a stand, those poor kids of hers. The guy just refuses to grow up and show some maturity. I hope his team-mates stop making excuses for him, he's supposed to be an adult, you can't blame it all on the media or a teenage girl.

Okay, tonight's one dayer is looking tough but if we can get over 200 I reckon we could take this one, we've got a classy bowling attack, just need a decent number of runs to make it possible. Thanks to the English bowlers we've got a lot of extras to prop-up our current total, let's hope we don't return the favour.

 

[canny]

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Good total - don't know whether I'll stay the distance tonight to see how we field.
Have had a row of late nights, and promised I'd be in bed early tonight!
Maybe watch the first 10 overs??!!!!

 

[dutchie]

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Rich & Canny

We have got a good total. More than enough for tonight.
Glen & Bret should get rid of most of them before they get to 100.

Seems weird watching the cricket with spectators sitting in the sun - switch over to other channel and see people injured etc walking the streets of London after another gutless & senseless terror attack.

 

[dutchie]

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Good call. The sun was in our eyes, the wicket was wet, it was too windy, we are sucking them in for the tests.......

 

[ice]

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England are very good, and we may have underestimated them.
They cleaned up South Africa in SA even with Harmison hopelessly out of form, so they'll be formidable this series.

With Vaughan as captain and Fletcher as coach they've become a team that believes in itself, which is what they lacked previously.

I think we can hold the Ashes but it'll be close and we may have to rely on draws since both sides are chock full of batting.

Anyway to lovers of cricket it has to be a better situation than last summer when the cricket was a total yawn.

Bring it on!

 

[phoenixrising]

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I think the Poms will be even tougher after the Olympic win and now let's do it for London. Almost favourites.

Can't remember the last time I thought that.

 

[RichKid]

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Have to say I'm a bit surprised since most networks love any sort of publicity but when you consider the character of the rest of the commentary team you can see why they want to maintain the high all-round standard. Looks like the poms aren't that fussy. Let's see if Warne can perform far better in the Ashes.

Nine Axes Warne
By Trevor Marshallsea
SMH July 13, 2005

Shane Warne's bad behaviour has not just cost him his marriage - it has cost him one future career. Channel Nine boss Kerry Packer has reportedly told Warne that because of the tidal wave of negative publicity surrounding the leg spinner lately, it will not be renewing his contract with the network.

The effect is that Warne loses a deal in which Nine paid him a retainer worth some $300,000 a year to do not a whole lot.

The longer-term impact of the severing of his 11-year association with the network may hurt Warne more. The 35-year-old had been angling for a career in cricket commentary once he retired from playing the game, but the potential for that - in Australia at least - now seems to have hit rock bottom.

Warne's best bet will be to pursue a commentary role in England. Although he has been widely lampooned in the tabloid press there, the English cricket public does not have quite the level of disenchantment as its Australian equivalent over the spinner's off-field behaviour.

Warne, who commentated for Nine during his 12-month doping ban through 2003, receiving high commendation from his employers and enjoying the experience immensely, could also pursue a commentary career with one of the handful of production companies that cover various cricket contests around the world.

While newspaper reports had forewarned that Nine was sorely disappointed with Warne, news that it would not renew his contract when it expires in the coming weeks surprised many in the TV sports industry. Warne, the most successful bowler in Test cricket's 128-year history, had been considered too big a name for Australia's cricket broadcaster to lose to a rival network. He is also a friend of Packer's.

However, reports that Nine's recently returned executive director Sam Chisholm could not tolerate Warne and the negative off-field publicity which follows him have proved on the money. While Packer and Warne speak to each other often on the telephone, it was believed Chisholm felt the publicity which had dogged Warne's career in the limelight would be detrimental to the image of the Nine cricket commentary team, which also includes such respected characters as Richie Benaud and Mark Taylor.

Reports last night quoted Warne's brother and manager Jason as saying: "It is extremely disappointing given the length of the relationship [with Nine]. It [commentary] was something Shane was looking forward to doing in retirement."

Warne will, in the coming days, link with the Australian Test squad for the Ashes series, following a public marriage split which followed revelations he had had sex with three women during his current county stint with Hampshire before his wife Simone and their three children joined him in England last month.

Asked last week whether a network which employed a banned doping offender as a commentator would have a problem employing the same man when proven an unfaithful husband, Jason Warne said: "I'd like to think not." Last night he was proven wrong.

 

[RichKid]

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A nice win there to take us into what should be a very close Ashes series with the one day series won. England have definitely lifted a few notches over the last year or so.

 

[wayneL]

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A nice win there to take us into what should be a very close Ashes series with the one day series won. England have definitely lifted a few notches over the last year or so.

....and a superb innings by one A. Gilchrist!

 

[RichKid]

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....and a superb innings by one A. Gilchrist!

Yep! Missed it on TV but heard about the big score, must have been close to half our total. That's the great thing about our side, we have so many big guns it's not long before someone fires up. Which makes you admire England a bit more since they have a few relatively inexperienced players really putting in the hard yards, they definitely are a 'team'. A great contest coming up!

 

[mime]

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The funny thing is that the English press said that the ashes were theirs after they beat us in the second match of the Nat West series. I think they are pretty humbled now after England recived such a flogging.

 

[dutchie]

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Gilcrist sure has changed the batting technique required for one day cricket - he is a legend ( and a nice bloke to boot).

Rich I can't see Australia losing to many Tests to the Pom's yet. They just don't have the firepower to dismiss Australia for a low total. Australia has too many good bats - we only need one or two to fire to make a half decent score. Our bowling depth is too good as well!

Lee will be in the Test this time and the Poms just can't handle his pace.

I predict a clean sweep except for a draw or two (due to the weather).

 

[Milk Man]

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Yep,
rain, cold and warm beer
great country theyve got

 

[son of baglimit]

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH POMS
i was looking forward to at least 4 '5 day tests' this series (not counting the usual rain delays), but alas, after viewing last nights game, and the body language of the pommy camp, it appears we are headed for yet another set of 3 day snore fests due to the incompetent bunch from over there. oh to finally get some challenging entertaining cricket, full of hard won wickets, recoveries from bad starts, fightbacks - nah all we are gonna get yet again is 3-4 day tests where the poms surrender early, leaving the aussies getting 500+ innings and themselves bowled out within 2 sessions.

GOD I HATE THE GAME THESE DAYS - BRING BACK THE 80'S - WE LOST, BUT IT WAS A CONTEST MOST OF THE TIME.

betting tip - on slow crumbling wickets - katich highest run scorer.

 

[wayneL]

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I wouldn't write the poms off yet!

If they can get their chins off their chest, they look dangerous.

Granted that's a big if, and the Aussies have their tail in the air now, buuuuut......

 

[phoenixrising]

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All out 190,with the Poms 0/10

So we do have a real fight on our hands.

C'mon Ozzies.

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

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This is another Warne allegation.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/cricket/new-scandal-rocks-warne/2005/07/21/1121539093240.html
:bigun2: