It does seem pretty illogical though that OZL stock is not considered adequate collateral for a written OZL call. If there's a good explanation I'd love to hear it.
Yeah that seems rather silly.
Do you know what will happen to the calls next Thursday if OZL remains suspended?
Do you know what it means? Because I'm not really sure.All explained here: http://www.asx.com.au/products/pdf/notices/2008/Clm22708.pdf
I'm no expert on this, but it does appear that the ACH don't allow suspended securities to be used as collateral. I didn't realise that either until now
Pretty much explained here: http://www.asx.com.au/products/pdf/notices/2008/Clm22308.pdf
I'm no expert on this, but it does appear that the ACH don't allow suspended securities to be used as collateral. I didn't realise that either until now
Do you know what it means? Because I'm not really sure.
My interpretation is that ACH will automatically exercise ITM options, using 55c, the last close as the reference price. This can lead to rather bizarre results.
Do you know what it means? Because I'm not really sure.
My interpretation is that ACH will automatically exercise ITM options, using 55c, the last close as the reference price. This can lead to rather bizarre results.
Yes, suspended material (since it's non liquid anymore), must be removed from collateral. For example: people doing naked put on BHP can lodge OZL security as collateral instead of cash. On this kind of situation, of course this OZL frozen security is no longer elligible for collateral.
But I totally disagree if the same reasoning apply to covered call. For covered call there is no other better collateral than the stock it self, not even cash.
For example: let say on the day of expiry, the stock jump 100%. If you have OZL securities as collateral then ACH just simply hand in the stock to the option holder who will certainly exercise his right. But what happen if the collateral is cash, the option writer still need to hand in further cash to patch the gap (which in this case 100% in value).
The maximum the holder of the option can get is OZL security, so if the OZL security itself is not eligible then it's a joke...
ACH have all the reason to remove OZL security as collateral for all other type of collateral , except covered call. I think this is reasonable.
I'm assuming there wouldn't be many holders of ITM calls anyway.
Thats my reading of it as well which also seems odd. And what happens to holders of ITM puts - do they get auto exercised as well, and is the reference price used and are they just cash settled based on the reference price? (since they can't source stock).
I'm assuming there wouldn't be many holders of ITM calls anyway.
Actually there were a few seriesi with 40, 50 and 60c strikes and there is a bit of open interest in them so there are holders of ITM calls. So are these cash settled based on the reference price as well or do they end up holding suspended stock. I'm assuming cash settled which means the writers have to front up the cash - if that is the case I think I'm starting to see why the OZL stock isn't suitable collateral for the call writers.
I guess with the price down where it is the margin lodgement requirement for cash collateral in place of scrip would be relatively small anyway.
Cheers sails.
I seem to recall reading a document once that had quite a lot of detail about what happens with options on expiry when the stock goes into suspension, but for the life of me I can't find it on the ASX site.
(Then again I think that I recall you provided quite a bit of information about this in another thread quite a while back, so maybe thats where I rember reading it)
I just did a search. I found the thread with the links to Pasminco but they are defunct - the documents must have been moved or removed from asx site. (quick search on pasminco on asx produces nothing either).
Gee!
This should go into the option gotchas thread.
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