Boat People

[Happy]

We are taken for a ride again!

 

[Julia]

Last week on the TV show the Force, the police had a old blind man, who was sober, he was on the street homeless, the cops was ringing around trying find him a bed for him for the night. It is time we looked after our own first.
Bunyip, your post said it all.

Yes, I saw that old man, pilots. Really sad. And there are plenty more like him.

In contrast, I heard David Manne, refugee lawyer, suggesting on ABC Radio this morning that the 78 people on the Oceanic Viking should be accommodated in hotels in Jakarta while their applications for resettlement are fast tracked!

Canberra have approached NZ to take them. NZ have flatly refused, saying they believe to take an ad hoc approach to these arrivals completely sends the wrong message.

If the government allow any sort of special arrangements for these people, that will obviously be setting a precedent for the future.

 

[pilots]

Yes, I saw that old man, pilots. Really sad. And there are plenty more like him.

In contrast, I heard David Manne, refugee lawyer, suggesting on ABC Radio this morning that the 78 people on the Oceanic Viking should be accommodated in hotels in Jakarta while their applications for resettlement are fast tracked!

Canberra have approached NZ to take them. NZ have flatly refused, saying they believe to take an ad hoc approach to these arrivals completely sends the wrong message.

If the government allow any sort of special arrangements for these people, that will obviously be setting a precedent for the future.

In a hotel, it had BETTER BE 5 STAR

 

[noco]

Yes, I saw that old man, pilots. Really sad. And there are plenty more like him.

In contrast, I heard David Manne, refugee lawyer, suggesting on ABC Radio this morning that the 78 people on the Oceanic Viking should be accommodated in hotels in Jakarta while their applications for resettlement are fast tracked!

Canberra have approached NZ to take them. NZ have flatly refused, saying they believe to take an ad hoc approach to these arrivals completely sends the wrong message.

If the government allow any sort of special arrangements for these people, that will obviously be setting a precedent for the future.

Julia, this ongoing saga gets more intricate and embarrassing for the Labor Government by the day. This week with failure by the Indonesians to accept the 78 Sri Lakans, a rush trip to Sri Lanka, sus out India, a request to New Zealand to take them and the latest is for the Philippines to assist.

Rudd is becoming so desperate to avoid bringing them Australia. I wonder what his next attempt will be? Patience! Patience! Patience! Shush, we need time to think! The clock is ticking Mr. Rudd.

 

[Calliope]

Let me be absolutely clear the blackmailers have won. The gutless Government will fast track the resettlement of the Tamils into Australia. The blackmailers are not happy . They will only leave the boat if they don't have to go into detention in the interim. They prefer hotel accommodation.

The Government has made a new offer to the Sri Lankans on board the Australian Customs vessel, who have been on the vessel for more than two weeks, although some media reports suggest the asylum seekers have already rejected the deal.

Under the offer, those already recognised as refugees by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) have been promised resettlement in Australia within a month.

Those not yet classified as such by the UNHCR would be resettled within 12 weeks if their claims are proved.

But the catch is they must disembark and stay in an Indonesian detention centre while their claims are processed.

The ABC says 30 of the 78 asylum seekers are believed to have already been deemed refugees by the UN agency.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26339216-29277,00.html

 

[lasty]

Strange how 78 people can hold the Australian Labor Govt to ransom.
I say let them in. They are doing a better job than the Liberals right now.
Alex for PM

 

[bigdog]

Parliment resumes next monday and Rudd needs to get something into play before Monday. Question Time will be great viewing at 2:00 PM!!

My vote is to sail the Oceanic Viking to Sri Lanka; but first offer those that want to be processed by Australia to get off the boat in Indonesia and offer those that refuse to leave the ship, a free trip home to Sri Lanka by ship.

 

[Calliope]

Strange how 78 people can hold the Australian Labor Govt to ransom.
I say let them in. They are doing a better job than the Liberals right now.
Alex for PM

The PM has already offered Alex a job as his Special Adviser on Immigration. Alex advocates a hard line on all immigrants except Tamils.

Our hard, but humane (read gutless) government is already looking at means to expedite the passage of Tamils directly from Sri Lanka to Australia to leave the nasty people smugglers and Indonesians out of the loop.

 

[noco]

In the meantime, it has cost us tax payers $75,000 per day X 28 DAYS = $2,100,000 while the Oceanic Viking lays idol in Indonesian waters.

If Rudd does not want them why doesn't he come clean and say so. Start your engines boys and head back to Sri Lanka as Barnaby suggested last week.

 

[bunyip]

Parliment resumes next monday and Rudd needs to get something into play before Monday. Question Time will be great viewing at 2:00 PM!!

My vote is to sail the Oceanic Viking to Sri Lanka; but first offer those that want to be processed by Australia to get off the boat in Indonesia and offer those that refuse to leave the ship, a free trip home to Sri Lanka by ship.

My vote is to give them all a free trip home to Sri Lanka and don't let any of them get off anywhere near Australia.

 

[justjohn]

And where is our fearless leader ,INDIA ,on another overseas junket ,Why? ,probably the only place he has'nt been too since becoming PM &%$#&@#$#@

 

[Calliope]

I have just watched the interview of Immigration Minister, Chris Evans by Kerry O'Brien on the 7.30 Report. It was pathetic to see this poor fool , with sincerity written all over his face, trying to justify the special deal he has cut with the Tamil extortionists on the Oceanic Viking.

O'Brien tried repeatedly, without any result, to get him to explain why these people should get priority over those asylum seekers already being processed in Indonesia.

I felt sorry for Evans. Lying and obfuscation does not come as easily to him as it does to his Dear Leader.

 

[bunyip]

G'day and welcome to a brand new edition of :
'ASYLUM'.

Today's program features another chance to take part in our exciting competition:
Hop on a boat
And win
A FREE HOUSE!
We've already given away hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of dream homes, courtesy of our sponsor,
The Australian Taxpayer.
And don't forget, we're now the fastest growing game on the planet.
Anyone can play, provided they don't already hold a valid Australian Passport, and you only need one word of English:
'ASYLUM'

Prizes include all-expenses-paid accommodation, cash benefits starting at $800 a week and a chance to earn thousands more begging, mugging and
accosting drivers at traffic lights.
This competition is open to everyone
buy a ticket to Indonesia
And catch the first available boat.
No application ever refused - reasonable or unreasonable.
All you have to do is destroy all your papers or burn your boat once you
Enter Australian waters and remember the magic password:
'ASYLUM'

A few years ago, 140 members of the Taliban family from Afghanistan were flown Goat Class from Kabul to Indonesia’s gateway where agents were on hand to fast-track them to their boat trips to luxury accommodation
They joined tens of thousands of other lucky winners already staying in hotels all over Australia.
Our most popular destinations also include the Baxter’s reef and the world famous Christmas Island resort
If you still don't understand the rules, don't forget, there's no need to phone a friend or ask the audience
Just apply for legal aid.
Hundreds of lawyers, social workers and counsellors are waiting to help.
It won't cost you a penny.
It could change your life forever .
So play today.

Iraqi terrorists, Afghan dissidents, Albanian gangsters, pro-Pinochet
activists, anti-Pinochet activists, Kosovan drug-smugglers, Tamil tigers,
bogus Bosnians, Rwandan mass murderers, Somali guerrillas...
COME ON DOWN!

Get along to the Indonesia fishing ports
Don't stop in Thailand or Bali
Go straight to Australia
And you are:
GUARANTEED
to be one of tens of thousands of lucky winners in the easiest game on earth.
Everyone's a winner, when they play
'ASYLUM'

 

[dutchie]

This saga could be the catalyst for Rudd to lose the next (unloseable) election.

He is well on the way.

 

[888]

I normally feel for refuge but this particular boat people don't strike me for refuge. I spend 18 years in Indonesia, nothing wrong with that country for living, if they're a real refuge, they be jumping for joy to be able to live there.

 

[dutchie]

"Publishers won't drop prices; they will continue to exploit Australia for all that they can.

If the Government cannot deliver this simple reform because of the uneducated clamour of a few authors who are driven by publishers' interests, then there is little hope that the Government will be able to stand up to other pressure groups and bring about useful change for the economy and our society."

Quote from Allan Fels

http://www.smh.com.au/business/auth...onopoly-means-dearer-books-20091111-i9xn.html

 

[Julia]

I have just watched the interview of Immigration Minister, Chris Evans by Kerry O'Brien on the 7.30 Report. It was pathetic to see this poor fool , with sincerity written all over his face, trying to justify the special deal he has cut with the Tamil extortionists on the Oceanic Viking.

O'Brien tried repeatedly, without any result, to get him to explain why these people should get priority over those asylum seekers already being processed in Indonesia.

I felt sorry for Evans. Lying and obfuscation does not come as easily to him as it does to his Dear Leader.

It was painful to watch indeed. I had the same impression, i.e. that Mr Evans was acting his proscribed role, mouthing the same platitudes and non-answers, even in the face of (for once) Kerry O'Brien's persistently critical questions, but that he was really uncomfortable.

Unfortunately I think only a small proportion of the voting public watch the 7.30 Report.

G'day and welcome to a brand new edition of :
'ASYLUM'. ..................

Bunyip, I think you've missed your calling.
You'd get a top job in a PR agency with your copywriting skills!

This saga could be the catalyst for Rudd to lose the next (unloseable) election.

He is well on the way.

He has a lot of votes to lose yet, Dutchie.

I normally feel for refuge but this particular boat people don't strike me for refuge. I spend 18 years in Indonesia, nothing wrong with that country for living, if they're a real refuge, they be jumping for joy to be able to live there.

That's really interesting 888. I don't mean to be intrusive but would it be possible to tell us some more about your background, where you came from, and the circumstances which prompted you to leave, and then your 18 years in Indonesia? Were these years in Indonesia spent in a detention centre, or in the community, either working or as a refugee awaiting resettlement?

We don't often have the opportunity to hear from people who have had your experience.

 

[Calliope]

In the meantime, it has cost us tax payers $75,000 per day X 28 DAYS = $2,100,000 while the Oceanic Viking lays idol in Indonesian waters.

Mr Rudd's immigration advisers must expect these Tamils to become very productive citizens when the settle in Australia. However I doubt that a lifetime of tax paying will go anywhere near repaying the Australian taxpayers for the huge bill they have already rung up. And it's still work in progress.

 

[pilots]

Mr Rudd's immigration advisers must expect these Tamils to become very productive citizens when the settle in Australia. However I doubt that a lifetime of tax paying will go anywhere near repaying the Australian taxpayers for the huge bill they have already rung up. And it's still work in progress.

A life time of paying tax's won't pay for the house they are given. Krudd what a joke.

 

[justjohn]

This saga could be the catalyst for Rudd to lose the next (unloseable) election.

He is well on the way.

Who's going to beat him,Turnbull is as spineless and pathetic