wayneL
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Laudable. However we are going to need cheap energy to buy bread made things here. Although I would like to see how they can achieve both cheap and clean. Fantastic if possible but from what I can clean around the world it doesn't seem to be achievable.Anthony Albenese said in an interview with Deborah Snow that he wants a legacy.
The legacy he seeks will be "transformation of the economy to a clean energy economy that has things made here."
I like the fact he has a vision of what he wants to do. The other guy doesn't seem to have one.
That's the issue, Australia and the West has spent the last 40 years sending manufacturing to cheap labour countries, the only one who tried to reverse it by imposing tariffs was shouted down for doing it and thrown our.Talk is cheap.
Is there policies yet to back it up?
Talk is cheap.
Is there policies yet to back it up?
Maybe if Shorten had put these ideas up last election, we wouldnt have had to put up with Morrison for three years?Talk, BS and pamphlets is all we have had for 3 terms realistically you need to be in government to have the resources to develop real policy some thing Morrison hasn't done.
1st the vison then the plan then action, let face it Morrison has none.
That's the exact reason why "talk is cheap".Talk, BS and pamphlets is all we have had for 3 terms realistically you need to be in government to have the resources to develop real policy some thing Morrison hasn't done.
1st the vison then the plan then action, let face it Morrison has none.
Manufacturing solar power equipment ?That's the exact reason why "talk is cheap".
The things he mentioned seem polar opposites. Solar and manufacturing don't generally go hand in hand. Sounds like bs to me.
No, being powered by solar/renewable. It's not happening at any great speed.Manufacturing solar power equipment ?
That's the exact reason why "talk is cheap".
The things he mentioned seem polar opposites. Solar and manufacturing don't generally go hand in hand. Sounds like bs to me.
Only the Labor party are saying they will do it for new manufacturing. There is is Liberal policy to encourage Australian manufacturing 1.3 bil to put in moderm plant. Labor said they will invest 15billion in Australian manufacturing plus put in laws for the government to preferentially buy from Australian firms.That's the issue, Australia and the West has spent the last 40 years sending manufacturing to cheap labour countries, the only one who tried to reverse it by imposing tariffs was shouted down for doing it and thrown our.
Now all of a sudden everyone and their dog are saying they will do it, chook fodder for the media.
They had problems with supply last time they did it and costs blew out. Project delayed also due to supply constraints.plus put in laws for the government to preferentially buy from Australian firms.
That used to be the case but I can tell you it doesn't exist federally anymore (as a consulting engineer) and I am not sure why it was removed unless it was some free trade treaty or some multinationals influenced the government.
Makes sense and not surprised. They need something more nuanced.They had problems with supply last time they did it and costs blew out. Project delayed also due to supply constraints.
It made a mess at the time. I'd be worried about cost blow-outs again. A lot of kick backs to "friendly entities" went on as well. Get ready to position yourself for some fast government moneyMakes sense and not surprised. They need something more nuanced.
Exactly we installed locally manufactured plc's and had to replace them with O/S units when the company went belly up and couldn't supply support. It's a great idea, but in practise we found that other than small scale mechanical manufacturing, the cost impost and technically inferior product cost a lot lot more.They had problems with supply last time they did it and costs blew out. Project delayed also due to supply constraints.
And there's the rub. "Vision" is all fine and dandy, but often it subject to the law of unintended consequences.They had problems with supply last time they did it and costs blew out. Project delayed also due to supply constraints.
It can be done successfully but you have to be careful.Exactly we installed locally manufactured plc's and had to replace them with O/S units when the company went belly up and couldn't supply support. It's a great idea, but in practise we found that other than small scale mechanical manufacturing, the cost impost and technically inferior product cost a lot lot more.
With regard the suggestion that the Feds go 40/60 on home loans, that would want to be well thought out, the two issues that I can think of is a further increase in house prices as there is yet more stimulus and secondly who manages the defaults?
The concept is great as usual, the problem as usual will be in the implementation, which in the past has been where all these ideas seem to fallon their ar$e.
It is somewhat like the NDIS, great idea, then the blow out as the 'entrepreneurs' works out how to milk it.
It's better to be ambitious than the opposite though.And there's the rub. "Vision" is all fine and dandy, but often it subject to the law of unintended consequences.
These things need to be through and Australians shouldn't be tricked by platitudes.
I'm all for what elbow sad but there must be something more comprehensive in their plan... There are a lot of moving parts in there.
Like I said, local production of small manufactured goods was fine, we bought light poles and had control cabinets, vacuum tube HV switchboards etc locally manufactured.It can be done successfully but you have to be careful.
Thete have been a number of success stories over the years but following is a recent one.
Home - Urban-al
URBAN ALUMINIUM FUTURE SMART. Australian designers and manufactures of aluminium Multi-function “Smart” Poles and architectural aluminium light poles Urban-alwww.urban-al.com.au
I wouldn't go with the 40/60 on home loans.Exactly we installed locally manufactured plc's and had to replace them with O/S units when the company went belly up and couldn't supply support. It's a great idea, but in practise we found that other than small scale mechanical manufacturing, the cost impost and technically inferior product cost a lot lot more.
With regard the suggestion that the Feds go 40/60 on home loans, that would want to be well thought out, the two issues that I can think of is a further increase in house prices as there is yet more stimulus and secondly who manages the defaults?
The concept is great as usual, the problem as usual will be in the implementation, which in the past has been where all these ideas seem to fallon their ar$e.
It is somewhat like the NDIS, great idea, then the blow out as the 'entrepreneurs' works out how to milk it.
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