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World Bank Report Paints Bleak Picture for Australia

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Nov. 9 (Bloomberg) -- Australia's economy may be hit harder than expected as the global economic slowdown spreads to emerging markets that are among the nation's key trading partners, Treasurer Wayne Swan said, citing a World Bank report.

The report, shown to finance ministers and central bank heads meeting in Brazil, shows the crisis that began in advanced economies is spreading to the developing world. That threatens Australia's extensive trade with countries in Asia and elsewhere, Swan said in comments to journalists e-mailed to Bloomberg News by his office in Canberra.

``We had already factored in a slowing of Australian growth and world growth,'' Swan said. ``It appears from this World Bank report that the slowing in growth will be more dramatic than many had thought previously.''

A bit light on numbers....

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=aV2eYRDa.kvE&refer=australia

Last week, the government slashed its forecast budget surplus by 75 percent, saying the slowest economic growth in eight years will erode tax revenue. On Nov. 6, the International Monetary Fund approved a $15.7 billion loan to Hungary to shore up an economy it said was among the first emerging markets to be ravaged by the financial crisis.

``Finance has been drying up for the emerging world,'' said Shane Oliver, senior economist at AMP Capital Investors in Sydney. ``Most of Australia's exports go to Asia, and if those economies are slowing down more than expected it'll cut into demand for our exports.''

`Dangerous Zone'

Swan spoke to journalists after the first day of a meeting in Sao Paulo of ministers and bank governors of the so-called Group of 20 industrialized and developing nations, a prelude to the G-20 leaders' meeting on Nov. 15 in Washington.

The summit is exploring the impact of the global financial crisis on the world's developing economies. Separately, European Union leaders completed proposals during the week for tighter worldwide financial regulation, which they plan to take to the Washington summit.

``It is very clear that in the past month or so emerging economies have entered a dangerous new zone,'' Swan said. ``That is the description of the World Bank in their report.''

Swan told journalists a consensus was emerging among G-20 ministers of the need for coordinated action to stimulate national economies, a further loosening of monetary policy and ``fundamental'' reform of the international financial architecture.

`Modest Growth'

Australia's central bank has cut the benchmark interest rate by 2 percentage points since September, the most aggressive round of reductions since the economy was in recession in 1991. House prices dropped in the third quarter by the most since 1978 and retail sales in September had their biggest fall in three years.

The International Monetary Fund forecasts 1.8 percent growth for Australia's economy in fiscal 2009, Swan said last week.

``While the global financial crisis is causing a global recession, Australia is expected to continue to record modest growth and compares favorably with most other advanced economies,'' he said in an e-mailed statement.
 
The International Monetary Fund forecasts 1.8 percent growth for Australia's economy in fiscal 2009, Swan said last week.

"While the global financial crisis is causing a global recession, Australia is expected to continue to record modest growth and compares favorably with most other advanced economies,''
he said in an e-mailed statement.
This Forbes article suggests Australia is in great shape with its mineral quantities, location to Asia and sheep among other things. I hope any of the pessimists on this forum have a good debate against further improvement in Australia's prosperity.

Reflecting an ongoing shift away from Europe and North America to Asian markets, the bulk of Australia's A$197 billion in 2009 exports went to China (22%), Japan (19%), Republic of Korea (8%) and India (7%).

Positive Influences on Equity Prices

Australia is a major supplier of minerals and energy (mainly coal and natural gas), which has stimulated significant foreign direct investment into Australia's resource industry from Asia, Europe and the US. Australia's 86 million sheep produce the majority of the world's wool, and with 25 million head of cattle Australia is the world's largest exporter of beef. Counter-seasonal production versus the northern hemisphere, a reputation for high-quality and advanced growing techniques support Australia's agricultural competitiveness.

Australia ranks first in the world in the production of bauxite and alumina; second in gold, lead, nickel, uranium oxide, and zinc; third in iron ore; fourth in coal and silver; and fifth in copper. Australia possesses 24% of the world's brown coal reserves, 5% of its black coal reserves and 38% of its uranium reserves. It exports approximately two-thirds of its domestic energy production (even though it is a net importer of crude oil and refined petroleum products). Australia's crude oil reserves are limited and decreasing, but its natural gas resources (located primarily offshore Western Australia) are immense and have increased fourfold in the past 20 years.

http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/23/au...ance-morgan-stanley.html?feed=rss_mostemailed
 
I would be hard pressed to believe anything that Wayne Swann said after recent events that have been played out.
 
hello,

Dont have to listen to Swan, just look around the street man for whats going on, paradise

What a sour life the doom and gloomers must live
Thankyou
Professor robots
 
hello,

Dont have to listen to Swan, just look around the street man for whats going on, paradise

What a sour life the doom and gloomers must live
Thankyou
Professor robots

Spot on there mate. I went to my local Bunnings Mega Store yesterday, the car park was over flowing and the store was doing a roaring trade. People were out and about spending in droves and this is in a real working class area. Some people really got to stop reading these end of the world stories and just get back to basics and enjoy life, cheers.:)
 
Spot on there mate. I went to my local Bunnings Mega Store yesterday, the car park was over flowing and the store was doing a roaring trade. People were out and about spending in droves and this is in a real working class area. Some people really got to stop reading these end of the world stories and just get back to basics and enjoy life, cheers.:)

If you don't look, then it's not happening? :D
 
I went to my local Bunnings Mega Store yesterday, the car park was over flowing and the store was doing a roaring trade. People were out and about spending in droves and this is in a real working class area. Some people really got to stop reading these end of the world stories and just get back to basics and enjoy life, cheers.:)

Saturday to visit the local Bunnings Mega Store! Good to see it's busy on it's most popular day. I went in Thursday, I thought, this place is dead. No doubt location location, the old Gold Coast builder must be doing it tough.
 
Saturday to visit the local Bunnings Mega Store! Good to see it's busy on it's most popular day. I went in Thursday, I thought, this place is dead. No doubt location location, the old Gold Coast builder must be doing it tough.

I'm seeing packed stores in a blue collar town as well. I think people are spending a bit wiser though. Still the malls are packed.
 
Spot on there mate. I went to my local Bunnings Mega Store yesterday, the car park was over flowing and the store was doing a roaring trade. People were out and about spending in droves and this is in a real working class area. Some people really got to stop reading these end of the world stories and just get back to basics and enjoy life, cheers.:)

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Bunnings a DIY store? Couldn't an increase in trade at Bunnings be a signal that more and more people are economically forced to do their own handywork rather than pay somebody else?

Bunnings is hardly a barometer for prosperous times. If anything it is the opposite.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Bunnings a DIY store? Couldn't an increase in trade at Bunnings be a signal that more and more people are economically forced to do their own handywork rather than pay somebody else?

Bunnings is hardly a barometer for prosperous times. If anything it is the opposite.
Yes, good vision.
 
I'm seeing packed stores in a blue collar town as well. I think people are spending a bit wiser though. Still the malls are packed.
That's what I noticed too, very hard finding a car park these days.

Bunnings is hardly a barometer for prosperous times. If anything it is the opposite.
It's the spending people are doing is what I tried to point out. If anything I really thought about buying some Wesfarmers shares again as no other Hardware store comes with coo-ee of this mob, they have everything!
 
Townsville is still very busy. The V8's were packed out. Another large Bunnings is opening soon.

House prices are staying firm although there seem to be more on the market. The shopping centres are busy.

The only store to fail recently in town was Clive Peters, but thats another story, and HVN have taken them over.

There are lots of pregnant ladies about, so all in all Townsville is quite a productive place.

gg
 
It's the spending people are doing is what I tried to point out. If anything I really thought about buying some Wesfarmers shares again as no other Hardware store comes with coo-ee of this mob, they have everything!
The numbers could go either way from now. At a long term significant turning point this year I think.
 
I'm seeing packed stores in a blue collar town as well. I think people are spending a bit wiser though. Still the malls are packed.

But are the people in the malls carrying bags full of goods/products or just window shopping?

If anything I really thought about buying some Wesfarmers shares again as no other Hardware store comes with coo-ee of this mob, they have everything!

Woolies has their hardware stores opening soon don't they? That could be another option to consider.
 
The last time I saw so many shops for sale or up for lease in Bourke Rd, Camberwell, Collingwood, Fitzroy, Richmond Victoria was during the early 90's.

Talking with friends in the retail game, they are having to discount heavily to get sales at the moment. Yes they might be getting some sales, but their profit margins have been greatly reduced.

Only time will tell.

Cheers
 
I'm seeing packed stores in a blue collar town as well. I think people are spending a bit wiser though. Still the malls are packed.

The malls have been packed up here for the last fortnight, for the simple reasons that is was school holidays and the weather has been too lousy to go to the beaches.
 
Saturday to visit the local Bunnings Mega Store! Good to see it's busy on it's most popular day. I went in Thursday, I thought, this place is dead. No doubt location location, the old Gold Coast builder must be doing it tough.

I am gussing most people would be at work on a Thursday and not shopping at Bunnings. More likely they are saving their money to spend on the weekend. :2twocents
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Bunnings a DIY store? Couldn't an increase in trade at Bunnings be a signal that more and more people are economically forced to do their own handywork rather than pay somebody else?

Bunnings is hardly a barometer for prosperous times. If anything it is the opposite.

Have you tried to get a tradesman lately? AND when you do get them to actually quote the job your platinum black does not have enough limit on it to cover the charge! No wonder the DIY's are doing it for themselves.

I would have thought Bunnings was the perfect economic indicator which means that people are spending money to fix up their homes and or their investment properties? What else do you go to Bunnings for?
 
Have you tried to get a tradesman lately? AND when you do get them to actually quote the job your platinum black does not have enough limit on it to cover the charge! No wonder the DIY's are doing it for themselves.

I guess that means that you are understanding as to the reasons why interest rates will need to rise further?

I would have thought Bunnings was the perfect economic indicator which means that people are spending money to fix up their homes and or their investment properties? What else do you go to Bunnings for?

You go to Bunnings because:

1) You can't afford a tradesperson (as you have mentioned)
2) You are deciding to stay put in your house as you cannot afford to move

DIY means DIC (Do-It-Cheaper),

I expect Bunnings to be one of the few companies that continues to do well while the RE market and general economy suffers.
 
I guess that means that you are understanding as to the reasons why interest rates will need to rise further?

You go to Bunnings because:

1) You can't afford a tradesperson (as you have mentioned)
2) You are deciding to stay put in your house as you cannot afford to move

DIY means DIC (Do-It-Cheaper),

I expect Bunnings to be one of the few companies that continues to do well while the RE market and general economy suffers.

Ummmm ... I would have thought that when the economy slows that the tradespeople will bring their prices back to a more "normal" level due to lack of work rather than pricing themselves out of the market? I understand that rates need to go up for other fiscal reasons and not to kerb the spending habits of the proletariat. Has something to do with the Govt stimulus spending I think.

1) Granted
2) Why would you constantly want to move?? HUH ?? I like where I live and go to Bunnings to buy some fertiliser for the lawn. The occasional tin of paint to change a room colour. A leaky tap every now and then as well. Some people do not have the urge to move every 5 years or upgrade or whatever. :confused:
 
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