Aspergers and Share Trading

[waza1960]

A little over 4 months ago I was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome but have being share trading for some years wondering if there are any other Asperger people in this forum. Also it seems to be a calling that us aspies would be good at, that is our brain is more mathematically inclined than normal we like solitutude we like patterns and repitious activity any opinions welcome

 

[James Austin]

does it mean u are less emotional waza?
better able to stay focused on the technical?

 

[beerwm]

I guess if the parts of your trading reflect these traits then it could very well be an advantage.

Same way as an investor isnt suited to scalping, and vise-versa.

Playing to your strengths.

PS; although i know nothing about aspergers.

 

[waza1960]

well we have a lack of empathy and are not that emotional which should be good but on the other hand we tend to be perfectionists and like to be right not so good.I would guess that we would have psychological challenges just like everyone else in trading. Technical analysis should be a strong area for us though and I must admit I really like it

 

[son of baglimit]

interesting topic - from my understanding many people are these days diagnosed as aspies later in life, and it explains a lot of 'unorthodox' characteristics they have carried through life - temper, fixation, work on their own.
e.g. that strange kid in class who went off his nut, or the kid who always sat on their own.
of course none of these characteristics are common amongst all, but just some of the more common. some aspies have none of these characteristics. most people have some characteristics that could be deemed 'aspi like', but could never be diagnosed aspi.
if you have found share trading as a way to engage with others with confidence, thru a PC, or just the subject fascinates you and keeps you busy, or even employed, well then great.

 

[waza1960]

interesting topic - from my understanding many people are these days diagnosed as aspies later in life, and it explains a lot of 'unorthodox' characteristics they have carried through life - temper, fixation, work on their own.
e.g. that strange kid in class who went off his nut, or the kid who always sat on their own.
of course none of these characteristics are common amongst all, but just some of the more common. some aspies have none of these characteristics. most people have some characteristics that could be deemed 'aspi like', but could never be diagnosed aspi.
if you have found share trading as a way to engage with others with confidence, thru a PC, or just the subject fascinates you and keeps you busy, or even employed, well then great.

Well I don't really have a temper but as you say all aspies have strong tendencies in some areas and may not have other characteristics at all.As far as engaging with others I have very minimal needs in that area.Aspies main interests tend to be Computers, Movies and Collections the first two I relate to strongly.Our vocations are concentrated in Mechanics, Engineering and Computers.I have an interest and worked in all these areas in the past,thats why I am interested in the concept of Share Trading as a suitable vocation for aspies as well.I guess in a few years I will be able to answer that question for myself personally.

 

[Julia]

waza, apologies if this is taking the thread off track, but I'm interested in how you feel about having the 'label'? It sounds as though you're pretty comfortable with it, perhaps the diagnosis has explained stuff to you that may have been a puzzle for a while?

Could you say how this syndrome has affected your life in general, your capacity to form relationships with other people etc?

Don't mean to be intrusive, so please ignore my question if that's how it feels.

 

[Happy]

I tent to go agree with this statement -

ASPERGER SYNDROME

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some researchers and people with AS have advocated a shift in attitudes toward the view that AS is a difference, rather than a disability that must be treated or cured.

Most people I know are better ore worse in maths, to me AS is rather defined set of preferences and talents, rather than disability.

 

[Julia]

I tent to go agree with this statement -



Most people I know are better ore worse in maths, to me AS is rather defined set of preferences and talents, rather than disability.

I agree. There are way too many labels around. Even just normal fluctuations of mood are readily described as bipolar. And a reactive sadness is labelled "Depression".

 

[waza1960]

waza, apologies if this is taking the thread off track, but I'm interested in how you feel about having the 'label'? It sounds as though you're pretty comfortable with it, perhaps the diagnosis has explained stuff to you that may have been a puzzle for a while?

Could you say how this syndrome has affected your life in general, your capacity to form relationships with other people etc?

Don't mean to be intrusive, so please ignore my question if that's how it feels.

Julia I have no problems answering any question related to aspergers or otherwise.I don't care about labels so its not a problem.I was comfortable in my own skin before the diagnosis but my life has being a constant struggle and relationships are very hard workBut it is nice to realise there was a reason for the way I am and now I can take steps to make my life better such as closing my business of 20yrs and working part time and eventually becoming a successfull Trader.You see the essence of aspergers is that we can't understand Facial expressions related to emotions and seeing as only 20% of communication is verbal this is obviously a big problem when interacting with people.At this stage i would sooner have aspergers than not and I don't regard it as a dissability at all .I just wish I would have known at an early age because life would have being so much easier.I hadn't even heard about Aspergers until 8 months ago when I read a newspaper Acticle about a school kid getting bullied and my son had this problem and I started looking into it.

 

[waza1960]

I tent to go agree with this statement -



Most people I know are better ore worse in maths, to me AS is rather defined set of preferences and talents, rather than disability.

Agree Happy however I would regard the inability to understand peoples emotions as close to a disability

 

[Julia]

Waza, thanks for your reply. Really interesting. There was an item on the 7.30 Report this evening about Aspbergers. I was talking at the time so didn't really take it all in.

Is the lack of capacity to interpret facial expressions and I suppose also body language in general something it's possible to learn? I'm thinking here that people without Aspbergers only gradually understand non-verbal expression and our ability to communicate non-verbally increases with experience, so it would seem possible for you to be able to overcome this problem?

Is the lack of eye contact part of the problem? I might be out of line with this comment, but a 16 year old boy who is a neighbour has been treated for autism/aspbergers most of his young life: he is completely expressionless and always looks at the ground. I've never seen him smile. Yet I have a strong sense of genuine communication when I talk with him.

 

[waza1960]

Waza, thanks for your reply. Really interesting. There was an item on the 7.30 Report this evening about Aspbergers. I was talking at the time so didn't really take it all in.

Is the lack of capacity to interpret facial expressions and I suppose also body language in general something it's possible to learn? I'm thinking here that people without Aspbergers only gradually understand non-verbal expression and our ability to communicate non-verbally increases with experience, so it would seem possible for you to be able to overcome this problem?

Is the lack of eye contact part of the problem? I might be out of line with this comment, but a 16 year old boy who is a neighbour has been treated for autism/aspbergers most of his young life: he is completely expressionless and always looks at the ground. I've never seen him smile. Yet I have a strong sense of genuine communication when I talk with him.

It is possible to learn to read peoples faces and body language and they actually have an interactive video for asperger people which shows people with different expressions and you have to guess what each expression is.Also even though I was diagnosed as having high asperger tendencies the Dr said that I had overcome most of these so that in one on one conversation to talk to me you would probably think I was a little reserved and thats all.The boy you mentioned seems to probably have autism which is a lot more severe condition.The thing is when children get diagnosed the experts say that you can help develop strategies to help them so that they overcome any disadvantages early on something which will help me with my children.Also the statistic in australia is that there is one aspie to 160 "normal" people whatever normal is.

 

[Julia]

Waza, you seem both interesting and insightful. We need people who are a bit different. All the best.

 

[Courtney]

A little over 4 months ago I was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome but have being share trading for some years wondering if there are any other Asperger people in this forum. Also it seems to be a calling that us aspies would be good at, that is our brain is more mathematically inclined than normal we like solitutude we like patterns and repitious activity any opinions welcome

Hello wazza,
RE: Asperger's and Share Trading
This is a very late reply (13 years) to your question regarding Asperger’s syndrome. I found your post only recently after doing a Google search on the very subject and it came up with your post along with replies from others at the time. Please ignore it if you wish.

Thank you for sharing your story – as of 2 days ago I’ve become a registered member of Aussie Stock Forums. The A.S. thing is very topical right now as I am a post WWII Baby Boomer who found out only in 2017 (3 years ago) that I have it and dealing with consequent issues has been a “work I progress” with the best support – so far doing o.k.

I can relate to the feeling of relief that life events, good and not-so-good were not entirely due to myself. There are good traits that I believe can be most beneficial to a Share Trader i.e. ability to focus, see things that others don’t, thoroughness, perfection (in moderation) - to name a few. These served me well throughout my career as an engineering drafter that ended with redundancy in 2015, hence my interest in Share Trading. A few not-so-good: As a child I had a shocking temper and sometimes tended to be rather rude but have long since learned to deal with those. There have also been some issues with verbal communication and the like but the most serious has always been “blindness” to non-verbal cues such as facial expressions, body language and the like that for others comes naturally.

I’ve kept this short for now but on a happier note, I’ve learned to cope and don’t do too badly, it is a matter of making best use of strengths and rectifying problems if possible.

KR: Courtney

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