- Joined
- 22 July 2006
- Posts
- 852
- Reactions
- 1
Cramer makes it sound simple and effective however I think it raises a number of issues. Firstly I think it's comparing apples to oranges by comparing the S&L /RTC bailout to today's mess. RTC was a depositors bailout but that's probably not the most important point.
It raises this whole idea of moral hazard, that these institutions are too big to fail. I find it amusing that these so-called free market capitalists want government intervention at the drop of a hat every-time something goes wrong.
But I have to confess my opinion is largely influenced by what I want to see happen. I actually want them to fail, and I want to see reverberations throughout the economy as a result. I want to see widespread panic and plunging stockmarkets. I also want to see institutions that employed floored business models punished for their greed and incompetence.
Just to note that Berkshire Hathaway, Mr Buffet's little plaything, has entered the bond insurers market. Suppose he has done it just to lose some of that cash
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/insurance/2007-12-28-berkshire-insurance_N.htm
Yes this news is well known. I don't quite understand your comment though. You've got to hand it to Mr Buffet, he knows an opportunity when he sees one. He shows up just in time to pick the monoline insurers pockets before they are destined for the scrapheap. Weak hands to strong hands and all that.
When Warren Buffett bought Gen Re, the large re-insurer, five years ago, he presciently made the decision to reduce their exposure to credit default swaps. It took them four years to reduce the number of contracts from 23,218 to just 197 at the end of 2006.
"We lost over $400 million on contracts that were supposedly 'safe and properly priced' and we did it in a leisurely way in a benign market," says Mr. Buffett. "If we had to unwind it today in one month, who knows what would have happened?" (The Wall Street Journal)
Watch Warren Buffett swoop in and take that boring old municipal bond insurance business. Watch a few large hedge funds buy the remains of the monoline carriers to get their staff and experience (especially the municipal sales teams), and launch new companies with pristine credit.
This is from John Mauldin
If you have Ambac or MBIA insurance, as a bank you have not yet written down any debt they insured. They are still rated AAA. But that re-rating is coming. And what about the monster CDS business in the hedge fund world? Who wins and loses? There will be huge winners, and there will be total wipe-outs. There are going to be more losses in the biggest banks, and even bigger investments by Sovereign Wealth Funds. Count on it. This is a story we will return to time and time again.
Paragon aren't they a UK group , the mother company being Financial Services Ltd ?
Folks, keep an eye out for this name in the news - Paragon Mortgages.
It may become Paragone.
Hopefully not HBOS, who own BankWest.
GP
What happens to the people holding the mortgages if a bank like bankwest falls over.
They will generally sell the loan book to a new lender/bank/private equity group at a discount. Your mortgage will continue under the same guise, albeit with a different lender. Then if (when!) they start to struggle, they'll sell their loan book to someone else, and so on. Like a marco-economic style pass the parcel.
Just try not to think about mortgagees with the non-conformers who have to onforward their loan book - ie Bluestone fixed rate holders all had 0.3% slapped onto their fixed rates.
No wonder Tony left in a hurry , Gordon Goodonya will cop some flak over this surely ............
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?