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USATODAY.com
$363M is average pay for top hedge fund managers
Friday May 26, 12:16 am ET
By Adam Shell, USA TODAY
James Simons, a mathematician turned money manager who prefers hiring Ph.D.s over MBAs, inched out oil tycoon T. Boone Pickens Jr. as the world's best-paid hedge fund manager in 2005, collecting an estimated $1.5 billion, according to rankings released today by Institutional Investor's Alpha magazine.
In rising to the top of what amounts to a who's who list of the secretive hedge fund world, Simons, of Renaissance Technologies, unseated 2004's top earner and first-ever billion-dollar man, Edward Lampert of ESL Investments, who is best known for buying Kmart and masterminding the blockbuster deal to buy Sears. Lampert's earnings dipped to an estimated $425 million last year, down from $1.0 billion in 2004.
"These are staggering numbers," said Alpha editor Michael Peltz in announcing its fifth-annual list of Top 25 earners. "It took $130 million to make the list."
Pickens also topped $1 billion, earning an estimated $1.4 billion. The average pay of the 26 (there was a tie for 25th place) on the list was $363 million, up 45% from $251 million in 2004.
Other big-name managers with big-time reputations in the top 10 included: financier George Soros, who was named "the man who broke the Bank of England" in 1992 after a winning bet against the British pound netted him more than $1 billion; Steven Cohen of SAC Capital Advisors, whom BusinessWeek called "the most powerful trader on Wall Street you've never heard of" in a July 2003 cover story; and legendary trader Paul Tudor Jones II. "These top earners are the best of the best, the real superstars," says Ryan Pearson, senior vice president at hedge fund consultancy Greenwich-Van Advisors.
The surge in pay comes amid an explosive growth in the industry, which now has roughly 8,000 funds and $1.2 trillion in assets. A lucrative business model for hedge fund managers, which, on average, entitles them to 2% of assets under management and 20% of the profit, makes these large paydays possible, Peltz says. A $10 billion fund would earn $200 million from the 2% management fee alone. Super-successful managers charge even more. Simons, the No. 1 earner last year, charges a 5% management fee and 44% of profits, Alpha's Peltz says.
Simons, whose firm, Peltz quips, has enough "rocket scientists to run their own space program," makes its money trading "often and frequently" with the help of computers, trying to capture small price movements. Pickens profited from the boom in energy prices.
The managers didn't just line their own pockets. "I suspect they have made more money for their clients than themselves," says Charles Davidson, hedge fund director at Standard & Poor's.
NettAssets said:It just goes to show you're better off on wages than trading for yourself.
And is 300 Million going to be a living wage in this new round of inflation.
John
NettAssets said:Be a mongrel to have to sell the Lear
John
being whopped over the head with the ubiquituous "Buffett" club.
Old bag wins lotto!!
After 45 years of wasting her weekly income on pokies, keno, lotto and scratchies, Esther Smith or Bonnydoon won $16M on Powerball last week. She recommends everyone buys as many lotto tickets as they can afford. "If I can do it anyone can" said Esther.
Realist said:
Well the lady below is a gambler, and she's made enough to pay the groceries....
Just kidding. But I'm sure you get my point. Trading and gambling works for some. Investing works for everyone.:
We need guys like you Realist. I@m sure you realise what I mean
Hmmm, not so sure about that (although you are no doubt right in some cases). Simons, for example, gets 44% of profits according to the article, so a bigger profit translates quickly to a bigger payout for him. Not only that, but these guys have lots of their own money in their funds. And finally, I seem to remember reading that these US hedge fund returns were much higher than the 10% or so that you mention (I could try and find the reference again if you're interested). In a nutshell, I'd say that high profits are very important to them.Nick Radge said:You guys have it wrong. These "payday's" are based on funds under management, not trading profits.
Realist said:I love baiting traders - it is excellent fun..
Nick Radge said:Look at the BRW Young Rich List. You will see Richard & Angus Grinham. Both in their 30's (their ofices are in Crows Nest) making about $50m from managing money trading futures using technical analysis. The money they
On a side note. Those knuckle heads at Intelligent Investor said you'll never find a rich technical analyst. Grinham's are in their own backyard!
Snake Pliskin said:We need guys like you Realist. I@m sure you realise what I mean.
Northern Suburb of Sydney (north shore)bunyip said:Nick....Where is Crows Nest?
You mean we need people to not become wealthy so they still work? hehhe
Realist said:Hahaaa.
There was some guy in the 1980's or 1990's whose motto was "Everybody can be rich!!"
Needless to say he was a laughing stock a few years later, and still a running joke.
Yeah I aint rich, I have to work.
I will be rich though eventually, and that is more than most people can say.
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