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Second stimulus package discussion


Thats awesome, now only if the daily telegraph would print that on the front page, maybe the uneducated masses would see how bad this plan is
 
As for the purpose of the Future Fund, well that's arbitrary - it's for whatever the government of the day decides to use the money for.

In a general sense, I agree with you except that Parliament must agree to certain legislative amendments where organisations and special purpose funds are established. On that basis, don't underestimate the Senate.

It happens to be one reason why I like the "unrepresentative swill" as one of our former acerbic Prime Ministers described that State-centric institution. Then again he did attribute Australia as being at the "**** end" of civilisation and he does like French clocks.
 
From Crikey.com.au -

 
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25081628-5005961,00.html

Ahh. Of course. Ms Gohard is more of an expert in these matters than the "experts".

"Saving face" seems to be just as powerful an instinct for Oz pollies as for their honorable Japanese counterparts.
 
NewsCom Headline

Reserve Bank minutes suggest Government stimulus will work

Well they would...wouldn't they?

Unfortunately, history shows that it NEVER worked. The Japanese have acted far faster and in greater "numbers" when their economy tanked due to excessive debt and speculation. What happened? Still in a technical depression.
 
Unfortunately, history shows that it NEVER worked. The Japanese have acted far faster and in greater "numbers" when their economy tanked due to excessive debt and speculation. What happened? Still in a technical depression.

Tell you what if thats how stupid the Reserve Bank board is we're in worse trouble than I thought.
 
in the asian crisis of 1989/1990 Japan waited too long before a stimulus package was in...not done until 1995...it was too late...by 5-6 years....then they built concrete paths everywhere.as their share in infrastructure..and to provide jobs...they had a job for life program..so even if the employer was going broke he could not sack them...there is a very old population and no immigration...
its all out there for everyone to see..just google it...
so since Japan had all these problems for almost 2 decades...they are just doing now ..what they should have done almost 20 years ago...
but until Japan changes its attitude...its stuck in a rut...very bad management on all levels...
all the young ones have to look forward to ,,,is looking after all the olds...what a basket case
 

Aged care is still one of the growth industries here too
 
The Liberals must be looking back with yearning for the good old days when they controlled the treasury benches, and Howard and Costello cemented their position as top economic managers by handing out unearned and unmerited largesse in the form of baby bonuses, first home owner's grants and other goodies.

The chickens they hatched have to be continually fed with borrowed money to win and retain the Top Economic Manager trophy. And the number clamouring to be hand-fed increases every day the downturn and bad economic management continue. One feeds off the other.
 

Acting in front of the curve is the general point most miss.

Acting well behind the curve as you point out above means you are generally screwed and there is no room for error.

The other point is that its treasury and RBA advice currently driving Labors moves that comes from the memory of missing the boat in the last decent recession (they acted behind the curve)

But of course we are all smarter than the collective knowledge of treasury and the RBA.
 
when are we likely to receive the second stimulus, April?

jsut wondering as i have festival tickets to buy in upcoming weeks
 
Guys,

is this still included in the stimulus package? for sure 100%?

Small Businesses and General Business Tax Break


* A 30 cent in every dollar investment tax break for small and general businesses buying eligible assets.

How can i check what asset is classed as being eligible?
i want to buy a video camera to film my online shop products and add a small clip to each product. this would be ok yes?
 
Hey TH
thanks for the info!
The vid cam i want is $1200 so it qualifies yes?
 
This will explain it all:
Shortly after class, an economics student approaches his economics professor and says, "I don't understand this stimulus bill. Can you explain it to me?"
The professor replied, "I don't have any time to explain it at my office, but if you come over to my house on Saturday and help me with my weekend project, I'll be glad to explain it to you." The student agreed.
At the agreed-upon time, the student showed up at the professor’s house.

The professor stated that the weekend project involved his backyard pool.
They both went out back to the pool, and the professor handed the student a bucket. Demonstrating with his own bucket, the professor said, "First, go over to the deep end, and fill your bucket with as much water as you can." The student did as he was instructed.
The professor then continued, "Follow me over to the shallow end, and then dump all the water from your bucket into it." The student was naturally confused, but did as he was told. The professor then explained they were going to do this many more times, and began walking back to the deep end of the pool.
The confused student asked, "Excuse me, but why are we doing this?"
The professor matter-of-factly stated that he was trying to make the shallow end much deeper.
The student didn't think the economics professor was serious, but figured that he would find out the real story soon enough.
However, after the 6th trip between the shallow end and the deep end, the student began to become worried that his economics professor had gone mad. The student finally replied, "All we're doing is wasting valuable time and effort on unproductive pursuits. Even worse, when this process is all over, everything will be at the same level it was before, so all you'll really have accomplished is the destruction of what could have been truly productive action!"
The professor put down his bucket and replied with a smile, "Congratulations. You now understand the stimulus bill."
 
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