School Bullying

[DB008]

It seems that this is becoming more and more problematic in schools. A school yard fights has just been released and it is pretty dramatic. But, you be the judge.

Video of tables turning on bully sounds alarm bells
(Violent vision of school yard bullying

--WARNING--: distressing images. Video footage shows how bullying in the school yard can extend to cyberspace.)

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/video-of-tables-turning-on-bully-sounds-alarm-bells-20110315-1bvmu.html

It lasts just 41 seconds but is a distressing insight into schoolyard and cyber bullying in Sydney.

A slightly-built 12-year-old Year 7 student antagonises a larger 16-year-old boy from Year 10, punching him in the face as a friend records it on his mobile phone and at least four other students watch.

The fight does not go according to plan. The larger boy appears to snap.

He grabs the other boy, picks him up with two hands and throws him head-first on to the concrete. A "crack" sounds as the 12-year-old's ankle connects with a timber bench.

"I think it's great that he's standing up for himself. It just sucks that schools don't even try and stop bullying," said one. "This kid is my hero," said another.

One said they knew the older boy personally and that he had been a victim for some time.

"I find it disgusting that he was suspended for it," they said. "I understand why he was but he still shouldn't [have] been."

This video clearly shows the older "larger" boy copping a few hits to the head and then he snaps and does what he should do in a situation like this, fight back (IMO). He is now suspended. WTF? He's the victim, CLEARLY!!!!

Thoughts people????

 

[adobee]

Providing there was not reason for the initial punching (ie fatty didnt call the kids sister a fat cow) then skinny deserves the broken ankle in my opinion.. Pretty lucky for all parties he didnt end up with a broken neck !! The big dude needs to stop watching WWF and watch some Ali moves though.. one punch in the nose would have sorted that weed ..

I dont know if bullying is getting worse but there always seems to be a few kids who are weird or loosers and a few kids who are bullies and pick on these softer kids till they snap.. I dont think thats anything new.. Alot of other kids feel bad but they do nothing as they dont want to get picked on themselves.. It takes a big man to stand up for someone else when your not involved...

I imagine its awful for these kids knowing some jerk is going to pick on them or push them around or try to start a fight.. and worrying about this before they get to school..

 

[poverty]

Better version of the vid:

http://vimeo.com/21021823

 

[Happy]

We seem to have 2 Worlds:
Official with no bullying, no gangs, no violence, and on and on
Real World with bullying, violence, gangs and on and on.

I have no answer, actually I have, but is not palatable to do gooders turn the other cheek and the likes.

Just hope to stay out of attention of some monsters long enough to live to the end of my natural life.

 

[Gringotts Bank]

I hear the term do-gooder a lot on here. What is it?

 

[Happy]

I hear the term do-gooder a lot on here. What is it?

Yahoo search brought few links:
http://au.search.yahoo.com/search?p=do+gooder+definition&ei=utf-8&fr=b1ie7

Suppose there are better Search Engines

 

[Julia]

Bullying is a huge problem in schools. It's much worse than a generation ago, aided by technology where cyber bullying spills over into the school environment the next day(s).

For several years I've been part of a mentoring program in both high schools and primary schools where we link up with 'at risk' students on a one-to-one basis.
These kids usually come from a disadvantaged background and often have learning difficulties as well.

Many of them are bullied. Others are bullies themselves. What we try to explain to them is that they need to walk away from potentially damaging situations. We have limited success with this.

As an older generation we tend to think this should be easily solved, but sadly schoolground kid politics are vicious and determined.

I have seen a five year old pick up another kid his own age, lift him into the air and drop him onto the concrete. He then proceeded to kick the downed kid in the head before staff could intervene.

The name calling and the obscene language has to be heard to be believed.
Some of these kids get it from their home environment and it's very hard for the school to stamp it out when the parent (usually single and on welfare) encourages the kid to fight and 'stand up for his rights'.

It's often really horrifying. I cannot imagine who would choose a career in teaching these days.

 

[GumbyLearner]

It seems that this is becoming more and more problematic in schools. A school yard fights has just been released and it is pretty dramatic. But, you be the judge.

Video of tables turning on bully sounds alarm bells
(Violent vision of school yard bullying

--WARNING--: distressing images. Video footage shows how bullying in the school yard can extend to cyberspace.)

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/video-of-tables-turning-on-bully-sounds-alarm-bells-20110315-1bvmu.html





This video clearly shows the older "larger" boy copping a few hits to the head and then he snaps and does what he should do in a situation like this, fight back (IMO). He is now suspended. WTF? He's the victim, CLEARLY!!!!

Thoughts people????

better view compared to the major newspapers.

http://vimeo.com/21021823

If someone punched me in the face and the guts twice (4 direct hits)
I would probably try to smash the aggressive moron too.
I certainly wouldn't give a flying **** about my teachers or the bullies parents either.
Especially, if they didn't have my back and/or wanted to stand up for/protect me in that kind of situation.
There is only one direction when your put into a corner.


The State knows all well. AFTER THE EVENT! Real protectors!

And his cowardly gang buddies stand around without throwing a punch. Three on one and the chubby picked on fella gets a suspension. YAWN!

This is nothing new.

I bow to every Australian P&C committee in the country. You know best!

Here's a school hall.

And not a blubbering apologist take-off involving that warm-hearted Julia.

About 6 months before the Leave Julia alone by that unoriginal obese man.



Dumb as dog **** Australia version

 

[ChaoSI]

kid got what he deserved.

as for admin.. they of course had to suspend both...
imo... 'anti-bullying' campaigns are nice in theory... but are almost always doomed to fail.. it is an impossible thing to police and if you discover it .. then what?

 

[GumbyLearner]

kid got what he deserved.

as for admin.. they of course had to suspend both...
imo... 'anti-bullying' campaigns are nice in theory... but are almost always doomed to fail.. it is an impossible thing to police and if you discover it .. then what?

as my non-custodial dad always told me on permitted custodial visits!

"...there are no rules in a fight son"

to this day he remains correct!!!!!!!

 

[Logique]

kid got what he deserved.

as for admin.. they of course had to suspend both...
imo... 'anti-bullying' campaigns are nice in theory... but are almost always doomed to fail.. it is an impossible thing to police and if you discover it .. then what?

Agree. An electrifying moment on internet. That little dude learned a big lesson.

 

[Lantern]

The big lad did nothing wrong IMHO
He was quite restrained untill he snapped.
Thats the trouble with pushing someones buttons, you have no idea where it will go.

It's the stupid teacher who should get the counciling.

 

[awg]

They had to suspend that kid after a body slam like that

Violence is less tolerated in schools than when I was a lad

In those days you fought with your fists and that defined the pecking order.

Everyone should learn self -defense. ( we still had to box at school, and not long before i was there kids caught fighting were still sometimes made to settle it in the boxing ring)

I remember a fat kid used to get bullied.. he had big thick arms like the kid in the video, one day he let loose and a couple of bullies had a lot of lumps on their head, very,very funny, no more trouble for him.

I moved from effete Noth Sydney to a school where every second kid was a coal miners son. They certainly tested you out. It was of the utmost importance to try and break their nose. Copped a few beltings at first, but they soon move on to a new victim if they KNOW you will fight back. ( best thing i ever did was king hit one of the fkers right in the thoat)

always taught my 3 sons to try and talk there way out, but if there was physical bullying, bash them & stuff the consequences...they never got bullied.

That smaller kid must have a small brain...standard tactic for big guys is to CHARGE.. with a view to trample, crush and stomp your attacker, a very effective method against a smaller opponent, unless they are trained in martial arts, or armed

 

[sails]

Is there a better martial arts than another to help kids stand up to bullies?

Granddaughter has copped a fair bit of teasing and some bullying. We read a book which I think was called "Bully blocking" - borrowed it from the library so not sure of the author now. Some of the tips in there helped such as helping her laugh off teasing and absolutely not showing any negative reaction to the teasing.

I believe they are running Taikwando in the evenings at her school, but don't know if that is the best way to go. Granddaughter is off to high school next year, so we are hoping to help her build more confidence.

 

[awg]

Is there a better martial arts than another to help kids stand up to bullies?

There would be disagreement on this topic.

Most martial arts teach do evrything to avoid confrontation, still great for skills and fitness.

Unfortunately the most "useful" (imo) emphasise much more physical contact in training and are not for the feint-hearted.

The best bet is to talk to the master and check his approach.

It is also possible to obtain private coaching, if the situation warrants it.

As I indicated, I have a tendency to meet bullying with aggression, a sly headbutt will finish most in-yr-face bullies ( hey thats what they teach)

 

[nomore4s]

Is there a better martial arts than another to help kids stand up to bullies?

Granddaughter has copped a fair bit of teasing and some bullying. We read a book which I think was called "Bully blocking" - borrowed it from the library so not sure of the author now. Some of the tips in there helped such as helping her laugh off teasing and absolutely not showing any negative reaction to the teasing.

I believe they are running Taikwando in the evenings at her school, but don't know if that is the best way to go. Granddaughter is off to high school next year, so we are hoping to help her build more confidence.

Sails, probably the best way to go is too find a martial arts class that teaches basic self defense rather then a certain form of martial arts unless your granddaughter wants to study martial arts for a number of years.

Understanding basic holds like wrist, elbow & arm locks is also very handy against bullies as it can put them in their place without doing any real damage and escalating the confrontation. A good self defense class should teach basic holds and strikes and is probably the way to go for everyone wanting to learn how to protect themselves, you could maybe attend the classes with your grand-daughter?

 

[Gringotts Bank]

Is there a better martial arts than another to help kids stand up to bullies?

Granddaughter has copped a fair bit of teasing and some bullying. We read a book which I think was called "Bully blocking" - borrowed it from the library so not sure of the author now. Some of the tips in there helped such as helping her laugh off teasing and absolutely not showing any negative reaction to the teasing.

I believe they are running Taikwando in the evenings at her school, but don't know if that is the best way to go. Granddaughter is off to high school next year, so we are hoping to help her build more confidence.

The ideal situation is to not react. By 'not react' I don't mean forcing yourself to swallow a whole heap of anger and frustration, but to simply cultivate an attitude which is immune to criticism. This is hard for most adults let alone children. However if she can do that, I can guarantee that the bullying will stop, and it will stop immediately, because there's nothing for it to feed on. It's very simple to understand, but not so easy to practice.

 

[Dowdy]

Is there a better martial arts than another to help kids stand up to bullies?

I did Wing Chun for a bit (only left because the class wasn't enjoyable - due to a poor instructor)

It's great against bullies since we did alot of work on confrontations. First we shout STOP before we hit them and groin and eye gouges were included in drills.

But the best way to beat a bully (epically if it's just verbal) is to laugh at them

 

[prawn_86]

Bullying has always happened and always will.

I dont think it has increased since i was at school (last decade). The best way to avoid being bullied is to gain respect. Play a sport that the bullies also play etc

 

[Sean K]

I can't help but have doubts on actual events. I can't believe the big kid just stood there taking hits with his hands down. Was he so bullied (by a kid so much younger and smaller) that he couldn't even defend himself up front? I do wonder if he was asking to be hit, just letting the little tyke have a go so he could then try and kill him.

Or, it's as seen.

If it's true bullying, bravo.