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Wysiwyg said:
Noting 8 of the 13 in Fridays run on side represent somewhere north of Stanthorpe.
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Represent is the word! inglis a black fella from kempsey(so is amos roberts) pulling on a qld jersey???wtf gives...he was playing schoolboys arrive alive cup in the newcastle area...there has to be strict rules about this & inglis is the perfect example,hes about as qld as wally lewis is a nsw,ditto folau as he is actually a wests tigers junior...

What you have now is guys like SBW being skilled up by the australian league system having played nsw schoolboys then deciding they are kiwis,thereby taking spots intended for australian kids,they need to make a decision who they will represent way before they use the australian league system to then play for nz,& yes im aware of willie mason being born in auckland however he grew up in newcastle & committed himself to australia always...

By the way did anyone know that sterlo was actually born in toowoomba??
...tb..
 
Yeah tb the rules are ...

Under State of Origin rules, players are selected for the state in which they first played senior (or registered) rugby league. Players must also be eligible to represent Australia at an international level.
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No matter who they play for, they give their best.(for QLD )
 
Yeah mate im well aware of the rules as i said about mason,but the inglis case shows what a farce those rules are,kiwis & papuans playing for qld just shows you the rules need to be tweaked...re:inglis is skilled up in the nsw junior rugby league system,plays arrive alive in newcastle,goes to qld to play his first senior game & hes a queenslander??? i dont think so...

Its a total embarassment to the game & its rules when you see inglis in a qld jumper...as i stated earlier you got kids born here to kiwi parents using the australian junior system to get into the nrl then deciding to play for nz,when did we start being a nursery for nz rugby league? have you ever seen SBW in his nsw schoolboys jumper?

All kids before they pull on a rep jumper need to state their allegiance to nsw/qld & australia,if you wanna be a kiwi fine but you cant be using the australian system when its meant for australian players...

Anyone want to disagree with me??...tb..
 
Got a split round again with only 6 games on plus the test on friday,now think our team will win but talk of a repeat of last years 58-0 drubbing getting way big headed tipping the aussies but only by 7,might take some pick the scores...25-18,29-22,27-20,19-12...first tryscorer..going for a roughie in ryan hoffman(wests tigers junior) i like his wide running style out with the winger & centre...take him for 1st & last tryscorer..odds..$21.00 same odds for man of the match..$21.00,got a 20/1 shot up on saturday so go again on the hoff.

now onto the nrl games,roosters to raid the raiders,bulldogs to pants the panthers,sharks to lassoo the cowgirls,broncos to see off the sea eagles,the eels to drag on the dragons,heres a good punting game,ive tipped the storm over the knights but im going to have some of the $3.50(5/2) on offer for the knights to upset the storm in melbourne,dont forget the storm will have
inglis,smith,folau,crocker,slater & now cronk has been called in on stanby for
thurston..$3.50 i cannot ignore..the knights are giant killers this year...

on the punt...

pick the score...25-18,29-22,27-20,19-12,23-16

hoffman 1st & last try,mom... all $21.00

knights away to storm at $3.50


roosters,bulldogs,sharks,broncos,eels,storm(backing the knights)

go hard or go home...tb..
 
The form is so hard to pick early on with really any team capable of beating the other,bulldogs & broncos were disapointing losers but will hit back soon.

my early tip of penrith as a smokey could be true,i potted them after the first 4 games with the loss of wallace vital,they will go ok but i still like newcastle as the real giant killers this year,the coach put the broom through last year & come the 2nd half of the year it will pay off..

Onto the dragons(hi jj),losers again,good bet to not make the 8 & good value for the spoon...tb

ryles good reserve grader..soft
 
Hey jj your dragons getting desperate now looking to 33 year old cokehead has beens...great message for the young kids ay...

nrl should have refused his registration,got some front coming back to the game that made him after deserting it for the glam rah rah drug snorting

now 100% getting the spoon!

crystal ball...sailor wont last 3 games...tb

Sailor Officially a Dragon
St George Illawarra Dragons
NRL

The St George Illawarra Dragons today wish to advise that they have agreed to terms with former Kangaroo and Wallaby, Wendell Sailor until the end of the 2009 season.
“Wendell Sailor is a great athlete and particularly a great Rugby League player. He is a person who brings significant attributes to our Club,” said Dragons Chief Executive Officer Peter Doust. “We have conducted detailed reviews of his injury history, fitness base and overall commitment to achieve, and believe this new partnership will generate positives for both parties.
“We are confident he can be effective for the Club, on and off the field. Wendell has a specific educational / experience message to communicate, off the field, and an opportunity to reposition his status as a Rugby League player, an athlete and a valued citizen of our community,” added Doust.
Sailor, 33, played 185 games for the Brisbane Broncos, scoring 110 tries between 1993-2001 before switching to Rugby Union.
“I’m very excited about joining the Dragons and am grateful to them for giving me the opportunity,” said Sailor. “I don’t believe that my sporting career is finished and I have had a long time to reflect upon it having been outside of the sporting arena since May 2006.
“I believe that I can still compete at a high level and it is comforting to know that I now have a real opportunity to do so.
“I’m looking forward to the challenge, I have worked hard on my fitness and I’m excited about playing my first competitive rugby league game since the 2001 preliminary final against Parramatta”.
Sailor will make his rugby league comeback this Saturday with the Shellharbour Marlins in the Jim Beam Cup against Erina in Shellharbour at 5.30pm
 
some dubious referring decisions jipped the dragons of a deserved victory
 
TB......you are home today ,not hauling any kleenex's .How did you like Phil Gould's column about Ryles on Sunday ,saying when he was NSW coach Ryles would have been one of the first picked along with Barrett .Remember 2004 TB......DRAGONS 50 TIGGER SOFTC-CKS 0 also that year DRAGONS 38 TIGGERS 10...Talking about hardmen where are the tigger imposters GIBBS & O'HARA .Gibbs hasn't been the same since o'meley used him as a speed hump and left him lying down on the job
 
Hey thats funny from a guy whos team havent won a grand final for 29 years,but as for scores from a few years ago..dont mean crap to me..

ALL I REMEMBER IS YOUR GUN PLAYER BAWLING HIS EYES OUT...what a sook

jj theres only 1 thing that matters..we belted you 20-10...hahaha

remember kapow halatau!!...
2 tries he just bashed you up....jj when are you going to realise this is all that matters...see these photos here..below????

its called winning a premiership,when the st george-illawarra dragons win one of these....you can bag me out...until then stick to your soft ryles & sailor coke head...


WESTS TIGERS 2005 CHAMPS,DRAGONS..CHUMPS!!

priceless!!dragons 2008 wooden spooners...bet of the year...
 

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What took you so long TB ,you mentioned in another thread(sgb merger )about Kelly pulling down some pants,being a tigger boy you should be an expert on pulling down pants with ex players SIRRO-JUNIOR & coach JONES being renown pant pullers
 
Here it is again jj see as though your memory is a bit hazy...

dragons thought they just had to turn up,got a football lesson..



WESTS TIGERS ROAR INTO NRL GRAND FINAL
Sunday 25 Sep 2005 11:00
by Matthew O'Neill





It was no upset and it's no fluke that the Wests Tigers are into the 2005 Telstra Premiership Grand Final after defeating the St George Illawarra Dragons 20-10 in front of a packed house at Aussie Stadium last night.

Critics have been waiting for the bite in the Tigers to go away but they keep on roaring louder and louder every week. Wests are a football side playing with extreme confidence and they are prepared to back themselves in every situation at every moment of the game.

Wests Tigers were underdogs with the bookmakers heading into the clash against the Dragons and the Saints might have a galaxy of individual superstars but Wests are team and one that plays with plenty of thrills and excitement whenever they can.

Even when the Tigers were in front at various stages last week and the week before against Brisbane they still threw the ball around like a hot potato and still looked at ways of scoring more points. Their attitude is that if the opposition score 20 points we have to score at least 21 and they will never go down wondering with the way they throw the football around.

Wests Tigers coach Tim Sheens has invested on youth and got the team he has wanted free of the deadwood that came with the $8million carrot in 2000. Sheens has a cool head and in my opinion now the No.2 halfback in the world leading the show, a workaholic pack and a dazzling backline with speed, flair and footwork that no other team can match. Most of all they are young, they are enthusiastic and they absolutely enjoy their football.

The big match stage against the Dragons was meant to be their downfall but someone forgot to tell the Tigers as they started in a blaze of glory with Benji Marshall's footwork on for display against as given room from a scrum feed scored in a great 20m dash to the line. Brett Hodgson missed a rare goal with Wests up 4-0. The score was 10-0 in the 22nd minute when impressive lock forward Dene Halitau crossed over as genuine hopes of making the Grand Final increased dramatically.

Wes Naiqama scored a 50m try in the 27th minute to open up the Saints account as they found space and numbers down the left hand side with Naiqama having too much pace. Michael Ennis added the extras to bring the Dragons within four points.

A telling blow in the match came five minutes before the break when Chris Heighington went over to score. It gave Wests a 10-point cushion heading into the break.

The second half was tense as the Dragons did everything in their individual power to get back into the match and Wests Tigers continued to play the football they know best. Trent Barrett crashed over from close to the line to bring the Saints right back into contention. Wests Tigers however refused to wilt and went further in front when Halitau scored his second try.

St George Illawarra threw absolutely in the final 15 minutes but the under-rated Wests Tigers defence was more than outstanding.

The achievement of the Wests Tigers is no fluke and no upset. Sheens has carefully planned this year extremely well and invested wisely on youth. Last year the Tigers were extremely competitive and these youngsters now shining were nursed through by the likes of Scott Sattler, who only played at the club for one year but taught the players plenty about attitude, dedication and getting the best out of your own ability.

Last year the Bulldogs won the competition building their team around a bench that had instant impact and firepower with Sonny Bill Williams, Reni Maitua and Roy Asotasi. Penrith the year before had a young and robust side with four impact forwards on the bench that kept coming all day with a few cool heads around it. The Roosters in 2002 relied a lot on a high intense defensive system and brought the kick chase game to new levels.

Wests Tigers in 2005 have taken Rugby League to a different level and showed that the game keeps on getting revolutionised by the week. Their team is built on speed, flair and mobility. They have increased the pace of the game to a new level and showed that raw speed and footballing skill can't be replaced. It's now up to the other teams to find ways to combat and revolutioned the brand of football that Sheens and his team have started to play.

It's not the first time that a Sheens coached side has taken the game to new steps and new heights with the Canberra Raiders in the late 1980's and early-mid 1990's setting the benchmark for attacking Rugby League. The Wests Tigers play an adlib attacking brand whereas Sheens' old side with Ricky Stuart and Laurie Daley in the halves played a much more structured but equally brilliant attacking style of football. Both sides had under-rated packs that kept coming all day, Canberra had two great forwards in lock Bradley Clyde and hooker Steve Walters and there's no doubting that both Halitau and Robbie Farah will be household names for many years to come.

Wests Tigers will play the winner of today's clash between Parramatta Eels and North Queensland Cowboys. Tab Sportsbet already have the Tigers as $1.90 favourites to win the Grand Final with the Eels at $2.00 and North Queensland the long shots at $10.00.

The Cowboys have been written off and their season has never got into first gear despite finishing in the top four and proving themselves for the second year running to be Queensland's most dominant NRL team. Parramatta have been outstanding and Brian Smith has changed his style of coaching to be more relaxed and the Eels have played a better style of football as a result. However, after being settled on his sides all year and none of the last minute changes, Smith has been playing attempted mind games with Nathan Hindmarsh being out and than in the side. When Smith openly declared last week that Hindmarsh wasn't going to play Graham Murray would have planned for Hindmarsh being available.

Today's game will be interesting with the Eels as short-priced favourites but the Cowboys have the attacking fair of Matt Bowen and Johnathan Thurston to cause damage from nothing situations. Whoever wins today will be facing up to a confident and bristling Wests Tigers outfit that has all the momentum and the support of Sydney firmly behind them

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NRL. First preliminary final. St George Illawarra v Wests Tigers. The Dragons must overcome the curse of the week off if they are to tame the flamboyant Tigers and win a place in the grand final. The Dragons have the bigger men and bigger names but the Tigers are this year's giant-killers and have momentum and confidence. This will be finals footy at its best.
 
Your hitting a brick wall here,ive got a premiership & you aint got a pot to piss in!matey ryles is soft..its a known fact..

Tiger cubs savage Broncos
By Laine Clark
Sydney
September 19, 2005


The play-off party continued for Wests Tigers yesterday when the young joint-venture side blew away Brisbane 34-6 in their NRL semi-final at Aussie Stadium.
Far from being fazed in their maiden finals campaign, the Tigers piled on six tries to one to book a preliminary final against title favourite St George Illawarra at Aussie Stadium on Saturday night.
In the other preliminary final, Melbourne Storm's conqueror, North Queensland, faces Parramatta on Sunday.
To the delight of a 36,563-strong pro-Tigers crowd, Brisbane lost its sixth straight final - a run that goes back to 2002.
In contrast, the Tigers backed up from last weekend's record 50-6 qualifying-final win over North Queensland to clinch their 10th win in 12 games and confirm themselves as title dark horses.
Veteran Brisbane coach Wayne Bennett admitted after the defeat that the Broncos may be tempted to look at a new coach.
Being eliminated from the finals was a bitter pill for him to swallow after Brisbane had led the competition by six points late in the season.

Asked about critics who have suggested Brisbane should consider "a change in coaching style or change in coach", Bennett replied: "Maybe they're right."
He went on: "(But) the game is constantly changing . . . You think you've got something mastered and something will show you up and you've got to make a change there.
"I think we are at the cutting edge as a club in all facets in what we do. So there will be new things to look to and inject down the track."
Bennett has coached Brisbane since its inaugural year in 1988
 
Go for it TB you can't upset me today SGB is running as hard as a Ryles hitup:
 
justjohn said:
Go for it TB you can't upset me today SGB is running as hard as a Ryles hitup:
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ryles hit up yeah!speaking of it ups!wont be long before they are all doing lines with the big dell,what a total embarrassment ,speaking of why have you got an avatar of the cry baby barrett...haha..tb

jj remember this....

kapow halatau
 

Here is the side for game 1 with my bolter wallace in at halfback(took the 14/1 & the 7/1 on mullen..thx nsw tab!)

1.brett stewart
2.jarryd hayne
3.mark gasnier
4.matt cooper
5.anthony quinn
6.greg bird
7.peter wallace
8.brett white
9.danny buderus
10.ben cross
11.ryan hoffman
12.willie mason
13.paul gallen
14.anthony laffranchi
15.anthony tupou
16.craig fitzgibbon
17.ben hornby

i got 10 out of the 17 & would have picked fitzgibbon but thought he was retired from state of origin,its going to be a great battle with bellamy up against his storm players,i am surprised that qld have tate on the wing & not inglis..yep inglis can do freakish things but the first kiwi try showed he is a shirt grabber(or as my dad would say..dont shake hands with them..bury them on their backside.)

i expect bellamy to run the big mobile boppers like hoffman,tupou at inglis to test out if hes gonna tackle or shake hands with them,now onto our front row which i think should have been o'meley & bailey(injured?)from what i ve seen of cross & whites game is they are a ryles type prop,just take it up nothing else..in origin you need an o'meley up front to put some fire into the team.

i think the game will rest on the bolter wallace,hes direction of the plays is vital..he can kick long range field goals as well..however qld look deadset very strong,aint seen a better qld team since '89..but i do think bellamy may target slater with the bomb & inglis with his defence.

to our bench i like the selection of hornby,he can play anywhere & with only 10 interchanges in the game,he ,stewart & hayne will test the big tiring qld pack,the game is usually in the balance in the last 10 minutes...bellamy will look to play an expansive game to run the big boppers ragged...cant wait gonna back nsw of course...

1st try scorer..jarryd hayne
last try scorer..danny buderus(long shot)
m.o.m...peter wallace(got good odds on him being in the side so ill stick)

pick the score..29-22,27-20,25-18,23-16,21-14,19-12(both sides)

go the blues...tb
 
Now that NSW team has got some firepower I will admit and would give any team in the world (except QLD ) a flogging.Definately more depth in the blues line-up with bench players that could be in the run on, no probs.No Locky and the home ground first up is probably a psyche barrier for the Maroons too.
Obviously there is a new position in the QLD side with 6 going to K.Hunt.He will handle this position with his can do attitude and natural skills.The starting 13 have all played for Australia.Good luck.


XXXX Maroons Queensland Team

1. Billy Slater - Storm
2. Brent Tate - Warriors
3. Greg Inglis - Storm
4. Justin Hodges - Broncos
5. Israel Folau - Storm
6. Karmichael Hunt - Broncos
7. Johnathan Thurston - Cowboys
8. Carl Webb - Cowboys
9. Cameron Smith (c) - Storm
10. Petero Civoniceva - Panthers
11. Michael Crocker - Storm
12. Sam Thaiday - Broncos
13. Dallas Johnson - Storm
14. Peter J Marsh - Broncos
15. Ben Hannant - Broncos
16. Nate Myles - Roosters
17. Jacob Lillyman - Cowboys
 
wysiwyg well pointed out about hunt,he could play anywhere & a 5/8 these days are not the lewis/kenny types,they are more of an extra backrower inside the centre,more of a lock 5/8 such as fittler was,hunt will handle it no probs.

The nsw front row worries me big time,cross & white are more likely to put cream on their faces than wanna get into the qld pack,look what happened last year when white copped a stiffy...no one rushed in to start throwing them! it shouldve been on for young & old...cattle dog!! i noticed that bailey & o'meley are playing for their clubs this week,id say bellamy got his way there.

I dont think qld can win without lockyer,he provides the depth & width on the right to left shifts with the double decoy runners giving hodges & inglis free runs to the lines,thurston is more suited to the blindside of the field plus his long clearance kicks rarely see grass,his short kicks are pin point but his long kicks always seem to find the fullback,remember his blindside kick in the 2005 grand final?benji went around behind hodgson then busted them for the greatest grand final try..

Now onto jack gibson who was buried yesterday,named the super coach of the century,great thinker & brought the game into the fulltime arena..i remember the '75 grand final like it was only yesterday,the 1st in colour...
easts '75 the best team ive ever seen,since you can throw in any team yuo like,his parra sides of 81-83,the canberra,broncos,storm,manly,bulldogs comp winners since...wouldve been belted..

'75 was the year easts won the amco cup & the comp,i lived on lilyfield rd leichhardt & went every wednesday night,i was there when fairfax broke his leg & mark harris also missed the GF through injury,jack gibson picked a nobody out of the easts A grade team..john rheinburger.know the team like it was yesterday,it was ian schuberts(now the nrl salary cap boss) 1st year in sydney,gibson plucked him out of wauchope..brass was in the centres.

this was the GF famous for langlands white boots,it was only 5-0 at halftime but easts cut loose later to win 38-0

1.schubert
2.pickett
3.brass
4.rheinburger
5.w.mullins(bretts dad)
6.peard(to parra '76,their 5/8 in '76,'77 bench,then 5/8 in the replay)
7.mayes
8.k.stevens(lock)
9.coote(his 9th GF since 1965,7 wins,5xsouths,2xeasts)
10.beetson(c)missed the '69 GF with the tigers
11.hedger
12.walters(won 6 from 7 GF)
13.mckay

fairfax & harris out injured but won in '74

ill go find my book for the replacements & the st george side..

the axe bunny reilly replaced coote & des o'reilly for beetson,gee shows you what a team they were,bunny reilly who was in the '74 side made way for stumpy stevens at lock pushing coote into the 2nd row with beetson.(both in the team of the century)

Its ironic that stumpy stevens & beetson were with gibson at parra in '81 with stevens in the 2nd row but gibson had dropped beetson to reserve grade as he already had bob o'reilly in the front row..john peard the 5/8 in '75 had been the parra coach in 1980.

heres the st george side.

1.langlands(replaced by r.finch,refs boss & dad of brett)
2.mills
3.r.ferguson
4.goodwin(sons play for cronulla & canberra)
5.chapman
6.bailey
7.billy smith
8.drake
9.stone
10.fitzgerald
11.beath
12.edge(went on to captain parra to the 81,82,83.comps)
13.tatana

starkey replaced stone.

easts 38(mayes2,brass2,mckay,beetson,pickett,schubert tries,peard 7 goals)st george.0

st george beat easts in the GF qualifier 8-5,only their 2nd loss of the year

finch & edge were the only survivors to play in saints 75,77,79 gf's

great memories from '75,maybe i should do a GF flash back every week

Beetson,mayes,fairfax,harris,peard,mullins,schubert,brass..just a magical team that could do anything,beetson & fairfax combo was lethal..

Now this week we are back to 8 games for a week then split again during soo..

storm,eels,tigers,penrith,canberra,manly,cronulla,titans.


...tb
 
Re: Parramatta very average football team...

Spooly mate,i saw some very worrying signs last night of a very average football side,ive stuck with parra for 10 rounds & they are sacked... down into the bottom with souths,saints,canberra...

The roosters forwards just deadset bashed parra last night plus juniors boy at half for the roosters is going to be in the aussie no 7 one day(hes a north ryde junior who should be at the tigers)

I havent seen the roosters defence like that since the made the 3 GF'S a few years ago.wagon,cayless,hindmarsh,ridell look to me they have seen better days,hindmarsh was spotted twice in defence by big setamata sa & sa just ran over hindmarsh for 2 soft tries...

finch does alot of dumb things,if i was hagan i would put the broom thru the joint,grothe first try again at 10/1.,mateo also does dumb stuff..joel reddy is wasted out there.i reckon he would go good in the back row,give the pack some legs coz atm they are getting bashed.

Now onto the titans the team that has surprised me in only their 2nd year,naturally the signing of scott prince from us was the key to the wins now coming their way,ive said they may fade in the 2nd half of the season.
but with prince not in soo they may steal a march during soo but can they hang on in the top 4 come round 26??

They have got some really top notchers in the key positions,7 prince,1 campbell,9 friend,6 rogers..ironically campbell & rogers did not play last night & i think it was their best win yet,they held the doggies out after it was 36 v 6 tackles..at the start of the game..
dont forget the tigers connection of prince,laffranchi,jeffreys...

They remind me of the tigers in 2005,outsiders with a rough hope at the top 8,but its their forward pack ive watched closely & they are the real deal this titans pack with much better cred than tigers 2005.

bull baileys first game in 6 weeks & he played 71 minutes(that gave them a good advantage with the bench)

friend,he is a great little hooker & tackles all night,most underated

meyer,he has played for australia & getting back to the form at the broncos

laffranchi,has played his way into soo this year but there is one other forward at the titans i think has been the best so far!

mark miniciello,he is deadset the most improved forward in the game atm & the titans form has alot to do with his new game,he had another blinder last night & i reckon he is a bolter for game 2 & 3 soo if injuries happen,i know he is a few more down the list but he would not let nsw if called up..

sunday 4pm trendsetters dont miss the tigers v newcastle(my giant killers of '08...)


tb
 
Boring watching this weeks matches with most teams without their origin stars.

This however helped my dragons immensely. Hopefully the win will give them some confidence.

Slow and steady, they will end up in the top 4.
 
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