Hopeful said:I liked the look of RMBS's chart on Wed 15th - it looked like it had made a strong line of support at 16 and looked like it was going up to 19.60-20. So, I bought some at 17.13 (almost the high of the day, doh!). Then on Thursday morning as it approached 20 and pulled back a bit I though that it may be making a short-term top as expected. Rather than jump ship like I normally would after getting a nice profit I instead sold a Jan 20 call for 1.75 then I was done for the day (night for me). The stock finished up 30% near 22 so now I have an obligation to deliver at 20 in Jan if I don't close out before then.
Bought stock at 17.13
Sold Jan 20 Call for 1.75
Last price for stock 21.72
If it finishes over 20 at exp I'll have a 2.87 profit on the stock and 1.75 for the sold call, that is a 4.62 profit.
I'm writing this to ask what you would have done differently and what you might consider doing with this trade now.
As my first options trade it feels a little bitter having sold a call that immediately went ITM by almost 2 points! But on the other hand I doubt I would have held on otherwise and I would beanyway.
Any comments? What have I gotten myself into?
Hopeful, I think you'll find that your max profit will be if the underlying is at 20 or above when the option expires.Hopeful said:Therefore you are stuck in a narrow range of $19 to $20 where your profit is maximal, should the common continue to rise, your open profit of $2.60 will continue to erode, and you will potentially show a loss on the position.
Max profit is achieved at exp if the stock is at 20 or above, right? You are talking about the open position. How can it potentially show a loss if the common keeps going up? That would only happen if the value of the call goes up above and beyond it's intrinsic value, and if I hold until exp it won't matter.
Things were fine until you sold the derivative position, and compromised the integrity of your position, now you have turned a winning trade into a trade management nightmare if you keep it open, or surrender 43% of your profit immediately.
If I close it up now I'll have a 2.60 profit. That's nice for 3 days 'work' . But I sold the call to take in extra cash and cusion it should it fall. I'm thinking that I should hold it until exp. at which point I'll have the max profit if it's above 20 , as I said before (correct me if I'm wrong) that max will be 4.62 - that's pretty attractive to me - it's a 30% return (cash out 15.38 , profit 4.62, 4.62/15.38 = 30%) in 65 days or 168% annualised.
If it continues to rocket then I guess I could lock in a profit by buying a cheap Jan 20 put - then I can just put the trade to sleep until exp without any stress. Is that a reasonable option or what would you do? Cheers.
Hopeful said:Therefore you are stuck in a narrow range of $19 to $20 where your profit is maximal, should the common continue to rise, your open profit of $2.60 will continue to erode, and you will potentially show a loss on the position.
Max profit is achieved at exp if the stock is at 20 or above, right? You are talking about the open position. How can it potentially show a loss if the common keeps going up? That would only happen if the value of the call goes up above and beyond it's intrinsic value, and if I hold until exp it won't matter.
Things were fine until you sold the derivative position, and compromised the integrity of your position, now you have turned a winning trade into a trade management nightmare if you keep it open, or surrender 43% of your profit immediately.
If I close it up now I'll have a 2.60 profit. That's nice for 3 days 'work' . But I sold the call to take in extra cash and cusion it should it fall. I'm thinking that I should hold it until exp. at which point I'll have the max profit if it's above 20 , as I said before (correct me if I'm wrong) that max will be 4.62 - that's pretty attractive to me - it's a 30% return (cash out 15.38 , profit 4.62, 4.62/15.38 = 30%) in 65 days or 168% annualised.
If it continues to rocket then I guess I could lock in a profit by buying a cheap Jan 20 put - then I can just put the trade to sleep until exp without any stress. Is that a reasonable option or what would you do? Cheers.
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Rambus Inc. shares soared 30% Thursday after several Wall Street analysts speculated that the maker of memory-chip technology will receive a favorable ruling in a patent dispute before the U.S. Federal Trade Commission.
Rambus (RMBS) , whose shares often see large one-day moves related to the company's many legal proceedings, rose $5.07 to $21.72. Trading volume was more than four times the stock's daily average.
Rambus has delayed filing full financial results for its latest reporting period amid a probe into past accounting for employee stock option grants. The probe prompted the company's former chief executive officer, Geoff Tate, to resign from the Rambus board.
ducati916 said:An additional point [or risk factor] is the risk of being exercised
While this is generally regarded as a remote occurance, due to the ease of selling the Option, it is a real risk [currently] should it occur.
jog on
d998
Hopeful said:If I get exersized early I will realise the maximum profit potential and will be free from obligation. The call buyer will be giving up his/her theta to me. I'll hapilly oblige!
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