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This approach by segments of clients is by nature divisive, confrontational and much more prone to internal fighting among clients - which is precisely the ideal conditions for lawyers and Administrators to take over and burn all the money in fees
If I can summarise from all of the posts, the biggest concern expressed by everyone at this point, is the distribution will be delayed as we wont be able to come up with a single consensus view on the method of distribution ?
What if we signed over something to the Administrator which said we will signoff to any decision agreed to by our Reps on the CC on our behalf in terms of distribution (ie: a proxy vote on the distribution method) ? This would not be hard to implement.
Hi Trader101,
I agree with you a 100%. That's why I eluded to the Reps on the CC.
When the Admin presents his methodology this Fri (22 Dec) they will need to be of one voice. Hoever at the end of the day the Admin will have the final say guided as you point out by the legal position. I doubt very much of a big legal battle over this as there will be some clear legal framework to do the distribution.
There has been a fair bit of negative comments made against Administrators in general (myself included).
However if you look at the Sonray case which happened in June 2010 where the clients were told they would get 25-30 cents in the dollar (CEO went to jail) are now according to news reports going to receive 69 cents. A lot of the credit must go to the Administrator who managed to get some of the parties to provide funds to pay the clients in return for not taking legal action. The Administrator in this case did not eat into the "Client segregated funds" as there would be nothing left by now.
Thanks Hatton
I think as in the Sonray case it will be long fight, but hopfully the combination of legal action and neg publicity pressure saxo to make a significant payment. Hopefully the same will happen with MF global counterparties.
Out of interest do we have or adminsttraors any vaild claims from? National Guarantee Fund see link
http://www.segc.com.au/claim.html
This is interesting, sustained client pressure in the UK appears to have forced the local administrator KPMG to implement an early partial distribution. According to this article possibly this month:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012...20120105?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=71
I haven't seen any updated from our administrator for 3 weeks, I thought they were suppose to finalise the distribution method after the creditors meeting on 22nd of Dec. I tried to call yesterday but no once answered - not sure if they are still working on the case.
Looks like the office was closed for the Xmas break.
No timeframe for the release of the CC meeting details from the person I spoke to.
Have provided some details of this "Nightmare" to a staffer who contacted me from Senator John William's office who wanted more details.
For those who dont know the Senator has been very active in creating laws to cleanup the insolvency business. Not that I am implying anything here with our Admin Delloite's who seem to be doing everything so far according to the book. Unfortunately everything seems to happen at a a very slooooooow pace. After paying a million dollars I would hope the turnaround would be a lot quicker.
Agree with you we have heard nothing they should at least keep everyone posted , the longer they leave this the more desperate people will become
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