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Knobby22

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Macron looks like romping it in.
Early far right Trumpian style favourite Eric Zammour and far right Le Pen who were both polling well now are trailing badly due to their previous closeness with Putin.

Zammour named Putin man of the year and Le Pen is pictured with him.
Game over. Plus fascists have lost their shine seeing a real one in action.

The left leader, Melechon has a deep hate for the USA and opposed helping Ukraine before this occurred. Gone also.

Macron is going to have an easy run.

As Macron adopts Zelensky’s look, his opponents are haunted by their pro-Putin past

The French election next month was going to be a battle for the far right. But war in Ukraine swung sentiment back to Macron.
www.theage.com.au
 
I thought anyone who was pro-Putin would be really on the nose in Europe. Obviously not.
 
Ferret said:
I thought anyone who was pro-Putin would be really on the nose in Europe. Obviously not.
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Unfortunately there are also a large number of Republicans in the US in the same boat where it all goes is a real concern.
 
As bad as macron is, le pen is a step too far while war is raging in Ukraine.
 
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Young people abstained by 42%. That's insane.
Many see macron as an elitist. But le pen was a serious threat in the current environment.

Apparently the more progressive candidate got knocked out. Not sure of the overall reasoning behind it though.
 
moXJO said:
As bad as macron is, le pen is a step too far while war is raging in Ukraine.
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Don't really follow the French candidates that much, but why was Le Pen a step too far?

<ETA, I see you addressed this above>

I understand she had gained enormous popularity with the youth... Interesting that it was such a high abstention rate.
 
Another interesting stat

Jim Reid noted Friday, in the first round just a couple of weeks ago, populist movements of both left and right won over 50% of the vote, including Marine Le Pen on 23%, the far-left Jean-Luc Mélenchon on 22%, and the far-right Éric Zemmour on 7%.

Thats a lot on the extremes. A real lot on the far left
wayneL said:
Don't really follow the French candidates that much, but why was Le Pen a step too far?

<ETA, I see you addressed this above>

I understand she had gained enormous popularity with the youth... Interesting that it was such a high abstention rate.
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Only in regards to le pen pulling support from Ukraine at this point. It was possible those German pikers would follow suit. We need a win in Ukraine. Selfish reasons as it may delay China ambitions in the Pacific.

Macron is a elitist d1ck and I dislike majority of what he is doing. But the country is that split that its just the wrong time for a conservative there during a Russian "special operation". Lefties are slightly less loonbags to the moderate left. If le pen was in its just chaos. Not the right time.
 
This reflects the analysis pre-election. The younger people were with Le Pen

 
wayneL said:
This reflects the analysis pre-election. The younger people were with Le Pen

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And from a reputable source rather than a twitter propagandist, note in reality 18-24 year olds strongly voted Macron:
Still interesting though as it was the old and young who voted Macron but he won in all age groups.

France Election Playbook: Macron wins — Le Pen is here to stay — France divided

A pop up daily newsletter on the news that matters around the French election, in English. By JULES DARMANIN Send tips here | Subscribe for free | Tweet @JulesDrmnn | Listen to Playbook and view in…
www.politico.eu
 
It was running at 28% abstention votes. That's the highest in 50 years. Another poll I saw, was running at 90% to "block le pen" as a reason for voting macron.

Macron isn't liked. Le pen made about an 6-10% gain from last election which is the shocking part for France. Macron was the best choice out of a terrible bunch in the current climate.
 
Another PM gone, reminds me of Tasmania. ... a political mess with no one able to make the tough decisions.

From the BBC

France has been plunged into a new political crisis with the defeat of Prime Minister François Bayrou at a confidence vote in the National Assembly.

The defeat – by 364 votes to 194 – means that Bayrou will on Tuesday present his government's resignation to President Emmanuel Macron, who must now decide how to replace him. Macron's office said this would happen "in the coming days".

The options include naming a new prime minister from the centre-right; pivoting to the left and finding a name compatible with the Socialist Party; and dissolving parliament so new elections are held.

Macron's bitter enemies in the far-left France Unbowed party are calling for him personally to resign, but few commentators think it likely.

France is thus on its way to getting a fifth prime minister in less than two years - a dismal record that underscores the drift and disenchantment that have marked the president's second term.

France in fresh political crisis after MPs oust prime minister

The French government loses a vote of confidence and PM François Bayrou will resign on Tuesday.
www.bbc.com
 
It is interesting the PM called for the confidence vote himself, obviously miss read the room.
 
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