flyhigher said:I use options for directional betting for big caps. When my options move to deep ITM or OTM, i often found there are no bids in the market. Even though there are bids, the bid price is way out of theoretical value in favor of market makers. I do not have enough cash to exercise options to deliver the stock to close the positions, so the only thing i can do is to pray for someone coming to the market.
flyhigher said:Does the liquidity bother veteran traders here?
flyhigher said:How do you guys solve this problem?
flyhigher said:Hi, waynel. Thanks for your reply.
1/ What are you using for theoretical value?
just like shopping for goods, i want to know fair prices
flyhigher said:I am using black scholes models. Binomial model will reach the same value if time intervals are frequent enough.ASX are good and i found option calculator of comsec pro trader quite handy.
cheers
flyhigher said:I normally use naked long term (at least 2 month) ATM options for my directional bet. I never use use bull or bear spread to finance the trade becasue i am not expereinced enough and i am afraid that i could not unwind the other leg when i want to get out of the postion. Any other strategy other than naked options for directional bet is welcomed!
The point is that there no bids and offers when options become deep ITM or OTM. So i trade more warrants now because there is always liquidity there for my small positions. Fair price become second priority in this situation.
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Do you guys use options more often for arbitrage or portfolio insurance? Do you guys do a lot vega and gamma trading?
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flyhigher said:Hi, waynel. My bslxm ( put @7.75 expire augus) is priced .775 at asx website with IV 65% now. but the maket bid and offer spread is .43 and .47. Does it mean that the maket maker think iv will collopase immediately? comsec value the option at .42 with iv 28%. confused about different iv here.
thanks
Hi Flyhigherflyhigher said:Hi, waynel. My bslxm ( put @7.75 expire augus) is priced .775 at asx website with IV 65% now. but the maket bid and offer spread is .43 and .47. Does it mean that the maket maker think iv will collopase immediately? comsec value the option at .42 with iv 28%. confused about different iv here.
thanks
flyhigher said:I use options for directional betting for big caps. When my options move to deep ITM or OTM, i often found there are no bids in the market. Even though there are bids, the bid price is way out of theoretical value in favor of market makers. I do not have enough cash to exercise options to deliver the stock to close the positions, so the only thing i can do is to pray for someone coming to the market. Does the liquidity bother veteran traders here? How do you guys solve this problem?
Thanks in advance
Magdoran said:P.S. I don’t agree with the orthodoxy that you must trade in options that have open interest, but this is requires a specialised approach Mag
flyhigher said:. Hi, Waynel. when you use theroritacl valuation tools on the ASX website, they have already defaut IV, then get you a theoritical price. As for comsec option valuation tools, they got IV there as well. i dont know where they get this IV from. thanks for you guys' input.
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Hello flyhigher,flyhigher said:I use options for directional betting for big caps. When my options move to deep ITM or OTM, i often found there are no bids in the market. Even though there are bids, the bid price is way out of theoretical value in favor of market makers. I do not have enough cash to exercise options to deliver the stock to close the positions, so the only thing i can do is to pray for someone coming to the market. Does the liquidity bother veteran traders here? How do you guys solve this problem?
Thanks in advance
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