imo, its not optimal to try and isolate +theta without a view on price &/or vol, since these can easily reverse and more, any +theta gains.
The usage of Delta Neutral strategies, by its very nature, would tend to imply that one is not particularly keen to have a view on price, otherwise they would go for the directional trades.
Volatility on the hand, because of its mean reverting tendencies, can, imo, be forecast (for one of a better word) more reliably then prices could be. So times like now when IV is fairly low (for the indices), spreads could be put on which are +vega with a slight -delta bias. That way when the big moves in the underlying take place, the +vega can be counted upon to provide some assistance to these +theta strategies. Workable strategy ??
How much faith should be put in mean reversion of vol?
To me it seems mean reversion is quite good from high vol to the mean, but much less reliably so from low vol to the mean.
The one million dollar question...
To me it seems mean reversion is quite good from high vol to the mean, but much less reliably so from low vol to the mean.
ah, you have just summarised in one short sentence what I just spent 2 paragraphs typing out.....
When is the vol arb fund opening fellas?
The holiday season has a shortage of trading days and a history of a bullish bias. As a result, December VIX futures have a tendency to remain relatively muted when compared to January VIX futures. Assuming I am able to establish this position for a net credit, a seasonal play on volatility involving short VXX calls paired with long VIX calls has an opportunity to profit if any one of three critical factors dominates:
volatility declines and both options expire worthless
the VIX futures remain in contango
volatility spikes and the VIX is more sensitive to the spike than VXX
Haven't looked into it, but on the face of it, some sort of VIX/VXX pairs trading seems to make sense.
When is the vol arb fund opening fellas?
When is the vol arb fund opening fellas?
when i can find anyone rich and dumb enough to give me 20% of winnings without penalty for losing, for executing a pretty basic strategy. Then what would I care whether its profitable or not........
Sorry, not many.Haven't looked into it, but on the face of it, some sort of VIX/VXX pairs trading seems to make sense.
Thoughts?
Having trouble understanding this. Most of the gurus recommend it and boast about how much money they have made doing this..
From what I read, you buy/sell to bring delta of the overall trade to zero. that just confuses me.. can someone please answer the questions i have regarding this
Are you active in this space or are you delta or vega oriented? I am interested in harvesting the premium for neg skew available from neg gamma with delta hedged via algo. For me, neg skew with controlled risk exposure in a diversified arrangement is easy to bear..taking into account conditional correl effects. All positions would be massively overcollateralised. Overall, I see this as extracting another risk premium apart from equity risk and other smart betas. Would be good to have a thought partner if interested.Hi,
When they talk about delta neutral strategies, they are talking about removing the risk of market up/down moves to your portfolio. To do this, you will have a mix of bullish/bearish plays in your portfolio e.g Sell Call on Apple (Bearish), but Sell Puts on the NASDAQ (Bullish) - note, maintaining delta neutral is an ongoing thing, as this will change as your underlyings move.
However, your main source of profit in options let's say, would be from theta decay (time decay) or collapse of vega (Volatility). However, in this strategy, you need to ensure that you practice good bankroll management, and also watch your vega risk. To do this you will need a mix of strategies.
Returns will vary depending upon your tolerance for risk, but consistent returns between 15% - 35% would be realistic.
Hope that helps.
Are you active in this space or are you delta or vega oriented? I am interested in harvesting the premium for neg skew available from neg gamma with delta hedged via algo. For me, neg skew with controlled risk exposure in a diversified arrangement is easy to bear..taking into account conditional correl effects. All positions would be massively overcollateralised. Overall, I see this as extracting another risk premium apart from equity risk and other smart betas. Would be good to have a thought partner if interested.
Hi,
I trade predominantly short call/put options in u.s market around the 1.2-1.3 S.D OTM points and 55-45 DTE. I place greater emphasis on probability of ITM/OTM and volatility than I do with other greeks. I keep a mental note of deltas (negative at the moment, not trying to stay neutral). By default, I'd have a low gamma risk because of my entry & exit points (out of trades usually >15 DTE), but don't use it as a measure/filter. Volatility skew does not concern me either, I'd still sell the other side as it does not require additional margin and P&L appears to be positive despite POP decreasing.
I rely on third party sites for information as I don't have access to options data to back-test and don't know what programs to use.
Thanks. To repeat my understanding:
Although you keep an eye on vol, I am not sure what you are doing with this information. I do not know how you find mis-valuation as opposed to using the above to shape the payoff.
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