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CTP - Central Petroleum

the market seemed to really like this just before close, if you look at the market depth, the buyers highly outweigh the sellers, with only approx 700000 sellers ranging from 25c to 72c, i believe we are in for an interesting trading day on monday. let's hope anyways

marc
 
Thanks Young Trader.

I realise CTP's ann was in relation to a potential target they have, however are prices of KIK and MXR based on targets they have or finds thaey have officially made.

I know you can not give exmaples for ctp as nothing has been found. Im just trying to comprehend what sought of return there is based on finds of 10mil, 100mil barrels etc.

I am happy to do the research if you (or anyone else) can point out any other oil companys that have made drilled and found 10mil+ barrels. (the small cap comapnys if possible)

Im trying to get a context for the oil industry as i can not value the stock or its potential.

Thanks for your help
 
That being said its an absolutely huge target, 2 Billion Barrels is monstrous, however I'm not sure what sort of confidence interval you can attach to it
I'd say there is an extremely low probability there is anywhere near that much there - without more detail (and more skills on my behalf), it's impossible to say, but my feeling is the probability of there being oil bearing structures there amounting to that much would be around 1-2.5%.

What they've done is interpretted old data and discovered targets amounting to that much potential size. It's a pipe dream created using the most optimistic of assumptions.

They're years, millions of dollars in drilling and truck load of luck away from getting anything near this 'target'.
 
Say there is 1% chance. That would be an expected value of 20million barrels (for the Pedirka Basin only) . I do believe CTP is still undervalued given this low expectation.
 
And there I was thinking I was talking to myself...hello all. Glad to see someone's taken notice. Some way to go here & potential is huge, but the newsflow should be high over the coming weeks/months.
 
I have to say that recently we are seeing the rise of numerous announcements which state they are targeting Blah,Blah,blah billion of whatever. It helped me recently with MXR(I made heaps)

CTP could ann they are targeting oil fields twice the size of Saudi Arabia but the real chances of this are on a par with winning Lotto.

I believe we need guidance in this area from regulators...ha fat chance !
 
Pretty good article from the Australian April 10. Could get more attention with some more press this week following from the announcement friday:

 
CTP has just announced a 2000 M illion Barrel field target in Aust


Thats 2Billion Barrels,

I think the mkt is yet to catch on to this


DYOR


Well this played out to a tee, mkt missed the ann when it was 20c when I first posted and like other "ramped" stocks with multi billion tonne Iron ore or in this case Oil targets it went for a run

I sold all today and made a very nice profit (40%-50% in 1 day is nothing to scoff at)

Now lets wait for the next stock to do this kinda ann and all get on board early
 
I took half shortly after open- holding half as I still think it may have some way to go. Still huge volume. What are your thoughts?
 
hey YT


does this mean that you feel ctp hasn't got what it takes to keep going higher?


i must be the sucker that buys after it takes off. . . . i have been watching since 16c myself and was too foolish not to jump in then and now jump in 10c higher. . . as i thought it actually has got potential. . .
 
Hey Max, if you read my post I said clearly at 20c the mkt has missed the ann and that the stock could go for a run

It opened up today at 29.5c so it clearly did go for a run of almost 50%,


The volume today shows that now lots of traders are on board, it could do anything, I am surprised at the volumes, I will look to buy back, but you must treat this for waht it is a spec oiler with a target, a very very large target
 

The text in the release on the 23rd May should have waved a great big danger sign to all. Any company who places a throw away line such as the below is on an obvious fishing expedition in my opinion and just looking to fan the fires of market sentiment.

Mobilization of Hunt Rig 2 to commence Central’s 2008 drilling programme is
poised to start shortly with the planned sequence of the Blamore 1 well
followed by a Coal Bed Methane well (CBM) or two and then the Simpson 1
well in the Pedirka Basin. An update of timing will be released shortly.last
 
thanks for the comments YT and TA. . .


still way too much of a virgin trader. . . . but learning. . . albeit very slowly
 
Hey Max,

After your post I had to re-read mu original posts to make sure I had not given the wrong impression or anything, I hope I made it clear that at 20c the stock presented a potential run up just like others had done on the back of such ann's and I think I did

Kinda like CVI which I bought because I thought based on the ann it released about $1B of funidng it was worth 26c-26.5c and it did get there so I sold,

CTP is hard to value, the target is huge but its just that a target, the rotary lie detector as they call it will be at work soon with the Balmore and Simpson wells which are targeting 200M bls,

To give you an idea you usually value Oil in the Ground at $20 a barrel, so 200M barrels in the ground would be worth $4Billion, huge numbers I know but remember its just a target,

I expect the stock to be very volatile given the volume as no doubt alot of traders are on board however if they find something none of this will matter as fundamentals will take over

Anyone know when the wells being drilled? all I could find was "soon"
 
CTP announcement....Any comments?


ASX ANNOUNCEMENT RELEASED to the ASX DATE: 27/05/08
TO: Manager, Company Announcements ASX Limited
CONTACT: John Heugh +61 8 9474 1444
27/05/08

Rig Moblisation to Blamore 1 oil well Pedirka Basin

Central Petroleum Limited (CTP-Central) has today decided to begin moblising Hunt Rig No.2 to the Blamore 1 oil well location in the Pedirka Basin on June 5th 2008. Water is being produced from 3 water well sites to assist in road preparation. Any change to this programme brought about by possible operational exigencies will be promptly notified to the market.

The Pedirka Basin is a recognised prospective province for oil exploration with many similarities to the Cooper Basin. Previous drilling has underscored the presence of three distinct petroleum systems in the Permian, Triassic and Jurassic as well as highlighting the potential for Coal Bed Methane prospective recoverable resources.

The Blamore 1 oil well is to be followed by one or two CBM exploration wells prior to drilling the Simpson 1 well.

Total Undisovered Oil Initially in Place “high” estimate (UOIIP) to be addressed by the Joint Venture with Petroleum Exploration Australia Limited (PXA) in the Pedirka Basin is now over 700 MMbbls in the Blamore, Avalon, Simpson, Bejah and Dune prospects together with assessed prospective recoverable resources (“low” to high” estimate) of 34-70 TCFG in CBM in the shallower coal sections of the Pedirka Basin.

The initial programme planned for 2008 is Blamore 1, and 3 CBM wells, (some of which will also test deeper conventionally reservoired oil and gas potential) and Simpson 1. Seismic has been shot by the Joint Venture with PXA over the Madigan prospect, (EP 97) the Guinevere prospect and the Vivienne prospect (both in EP 93).

Central with Joint Venture partner Petroleum Exploration Australia is farming in to the Simpson, Bejah and Dune prospect blocks in EP 97 held by Rawson Resources Limited. (RAW).

Subject to drilling success and the results of new seismic being mapped, the Joint Venture may determine to keep the drilling rig in the Pedirka to drill additional prospects prior to releasing for the remainder of the 2008 drilling programme inclusive of Mt Kitty 1 and Ooraminna 2 in the
Amadeus Basin.
 
Guys can anyone please estimate a time frame when DBZ will stop manipulating the price down to get their issue ? as announced drill is mobilising so expect this to move positively once DBZ stop selling
 

Mobilisation commences approx.5th.June..Spud-in approx.15th.June.....................................................
 
Hey guys,


I reckon CTP may go for a run next week

Today they have released a comprehensive report outlining their CBM recoverable resources

Prospective recoverable resources of CBM in Central’s 7 Pedirka Basin permits and applications now stand at 34, 47 and 70 TCFG at “low”, “best” and “high” estimates according to the reports.

Even the Low Case 34 TCF is huge

On top of that they have made the following comment

Although approximately 14 wells have been drilled in the Pedirka Basin, many of which have intersected coal, none of these have attempted to flow test CBM potential as they were intersecting coal at probably non-commercial depths for CBM exploitation. Central aims to drill an initial 3 CBM test wells this year in its 2008 programme as the first ever flow tests of Permian and Triassic coals in the Pedirka Basin which will focus on flow testing coal above a cut off depth of 1,250m. It is thought that on Central’s permits and application areas, a total of up to 30,000 km² of coal beds up to a cumulative thickness of 60m may exist above this cut-off depth based on previous drilling and approximately 2,000 line km of seismic.

So how much Coal could they have?



Also they have already completed studies for plants and designs etc etc

Independent studies by Holt Campbell and Payton Pty Ltd, consulting engineers, concluded in a pre-feasibility study dated February 2007, that a 140,000 bbl/day plant producing ultra-clean diesel, jet fuel and naphtha fueled by such potential CBM resources could be profitable at any
prevailing oil price over USD$30/bbl provided that the gas could be delivered to the plant at Alice Springs at A$2.20/Gj or less. Later updates of the figures provided in this report indicates a break even oil price of c.USD $40/bbl with gas delivery costs at $2.50/Gj for such a conceptual plant as engineering costs have risen significantly in step with rising oil prices.


While I don't understand this all 100% given how crazy stocks like MEE and LNC have gone over these Coal Gasification or GTL type operations I see no reason why once the mkt fully diggests CTP's potential it may run


May being the key word
 

Probably off-track.. my apologies..

I wonder how much influence YT has on the market... This forum is read quite alot, and he is well respected, because he backs his comments with research and his track histroy. Quite interesting following his trades around~

Probably a bit off track here YT, but how did you learn the technical side behind analysis? I'm pretty sure I'm still a noob. Did you just read books ~ or is it just years of experience... though YT - young?? how young is young???
 
All this talk about coal and CBM is a huge bonus .. but these guys are targetting up to 12 billion .. yes BILLION barrels of OIL and drill is mobilising next week.

lots going on here for CTP and it all should be positive for sp over short term and if they strike oil soon hold on to your hand bags
 
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