Garpal Gumnut
Ross Island Hotel
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Julia that study is severely flawed. It doesn't take into count the extra revenue of a healthy person working and paying tax v a sick unproductive person. And that study didn't take into count the quality of live of people that are obese and smoke.
As for the lycra cycling cloths aren't made of that. haven't since about 86. mostly its a poly/cotton blend. yep fat middle age people don't look great in anything tight fitting. But stiff ****. I love it when I go for a ride and see beach road full of all sorts having a go. Its Australia not Afghanistan under the Taliban!!
Your full of it gg. it aint my study man. Read the frigin' post. its not my study and it's FOR your argument. LOL.Trembler, this elitist rubbish is just what I'm arguing against. The ordinary fat bloke or girl doesn't give a rats about your studies. In the past they cycled. Now they don't. and its because of bloody helmets.
5. I've got no problem with folk who choose to wear a bicycle helmet, its a bit like having a financial adviser. if it makes you feel better and its not going to make any difference, and you can afford it, why not?
gg
Your full of it gg. it aint my study man. Read the frigin' post. its not my study and it's FOR your argument. LOL.
I am elitist F me who was the tosser that started the 5 mil only thread??????????????????????????????????
There is nothing to answer here! you are incorrectly assuming it doesn't make a diff. IT DOES.
You state people are not cycling. They are doing it MORE as a recreation less as transport not because of cost but because they are lazy. they are choosing something MORE expensive, a car. Your argument is completely flawed and lacking common sense.
I think your giving him the reaction he is after TH...
I am talking about ordinary people not the lycra mob who run over little old lady's in phalanges on a Sunday morning.
gg
The Dutch are by enlarge fitter, more progressive in many aspects of their social structure, are at least as well educated as the Australian population, and use bicycles as a population exponentially more than Australians and have the choice as to whether they to wear a helmet or not.
Personally I've worn out half a dozen Bicycles over the last forty years. On this topic I go Dutch. If I want to go and get the milk at ambilitory speed down a disused foot path surrounded by deserted roads at seven o'clock on a saturday morning and be fined, $200 dollars for that behavior, i'll know the nazi's have taken over. If I'm going to rocket down an arterial road in peak hour and not wear a helmet, i'd be a bloody idiot, and deserve to end up under a cement truck. But treat people like children and they behave like them.
Not only that hardly a day goes by, if you bother to look, that this law goes ignored and un-enforced, that by definition makes it a bad law.
A lot of people went along with the Vietnam war because the government decided it was good policy, until enough people (radicals, to start with) revolted, it will be a long while before the brain damage done to discerning bicycle riders allowed to make their own choice catches up with the damage done by that policy decision.
Happy being fat? Happy being lazy? Happy with compulsory helmet laws because it gives an excuse not to get on a bike, ever....
IThe bourgeois lycra clad sunday morning hordes love them, much as any crowd of elitists with a uniform would.
Something that puzzles me is that even when there is a dedicated bike path, the cyclists still choose to ride on the road amongst the traffic. Why would you cyclists not choose the safer option?I knew I shouldn't have started posting again... It's like an addiction...
The Government must spend more on bike lanes... This Fiscal Year they have only spent a disapointing $800,000-
As far as elitists go, no one laughs harder at them than me when they spend mega $$$'s on bikes, and team replica kits etc, only to ride to the coffee shop, HOWEVER, they are supporting cycling as an industry by attending cycling events, spending their money at the local bikeshops etc etc, which can only help the entire cycling community as a whole.
If you wish to ride a bike without a helmet, then you deserve a head injury.
I challenge anyone who disagree's to come for a ride with me!
Something that puzzles me is that even when there is a dedicated bike path, the cyclists still choose to ride on the road amongst the traffic. Why would you cyclists not choose the safer option?
And I'd add that the bike path is better maintained than the roads.
Hello Julia long time no speak...
Because it may not be necessarily the safer option in the first place... If your doing 40Km/h+ the road is usally safer... I had 2 falls on the bike tracks due to maintenence and none on the roads... I ride 99% of the time on the road... Above all it's legal... I can't stand it when drivers get annoyed about a cyclist up ahead, it's far better than a parked car...
This just reminded me of Brazil's laws which work very well actually... It is a little lopsided but in Brazil if you collide with a motor cyclist unless he hit you directly from behind or ran a red IT IS YOUR FAULT... Penalties are very harsh... It works well... But there is also a notion that most motor cyclists carry guns which I consider it to be true...Bikes shouldn't be on public roads anymore, half the people out there cant drive and a fair percentage are arrogant aggressive dickheads.
Bike path or nothing.
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