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BCS - BrisConnections Unit Trusts

Looking at the top 20 shareholder list for BCSCB it appears that David (JAB_Charity) has not coughed up the $1 second instalment for too many (if any) of his 0.5%+ BCSCA units.
This has all gone silent. Does anyone know if the above suggestion is correct, i.e. David Barrow has not paid the installments? Neither he nor Jim Byrne ever answered my question about nil responsibility on those from whom they took the units.
 
Re: Brisconnections shareholders - financial ruin



LOL I think nick bolton might have read this post.
 
Re: Brisconnections shareholders - financial ruin

LOL I think nick bolton might have read this post.

Either he had more balls than I did, or better lawyers. Or maybe just a more corrupt conscience. Who knows.

Anyway, I doubt my joke was original or innovative. It didn't take a genius to work out that possibility was there. Just as I said, guts and a corrupt conscience.
 
any updates on this? are people being persued for money? did JAB and jim make a dime? are the shares value atm?
 
any updates on this? are people being persued for money? did JAB and jim make a dime? are the shares value atm?
I would say no given that defaulting unitholders have been offered the period up until the public auction this Friday to pay the second instalment.

http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20090522/pdf/31hqglf7ddv8r3.pdf

For JAB and Jim to make a dime directly from the units an auction price above the $1.00 reserve will need to be achieved for the BCSCB units. Based on recent BCSCB sale prices that appears unlikely but the market is very thin. I suspect that the underwriters are hoping to winkle out a few more dollars out of defaulting BCSCA unitholders and perhaps a few fools willing to pay $1.00 at the auction before deciding what to do about the rest. It will be interesting to see if QIC increases it's holding at the $1.00 per unit reserve.

As for Jim's class action that's suffered a significant setback to say the least.

http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20090602/pdf/31hwltkkw9bx0n.pdf
 
Today's public auction on the defaulted stapled units was, well, err, um, slightly less than successful.
 
I was in Brisbane yesterday. I have never seen so many new cranes, trucks & concrete pumps in my life. No wonder they need the money from the shareholders.
 
I think Humphrey Bear is only interested in being a silent partner.

After reading through the last 30 pages I needed this!......... Thanks lol

I still have a few pages to go... Unbelievable debarkle really...

Imagine if Comsec had a confirmation button stating ther are 2 further payments to be made.

This would make an awesome movie, and I don't know the ending!

Thoughts for those still involved in this saga. Are there any left?
 
I think this Wednesday (June 17) is D-day for the underwriters to cough up on the instalment shortfall.
 
I think this Wednesday (June 17) is D-day for the underwriters to cough up on the instalment shortfall.

They charged the fees for their awful advice. They can take the (very deserved) imp:
 
Apparently the underwriters have duly paid up.
Now I guess we wait to see how diligently Brisconnections chases up the people who defaulted on their payments.


 
Apparently the underwriters have duly paid up.
Now I guess we wait to see how diligently Brisconnections chases up the people who defaulted on their payments.
They won't get much if they do.

There's only about 6.5m units outside the underwriters, QIC and HSBC so I suspect a mopping up of minority holders and delisting will be on the cards.
 
It seems Jim Byrne's promises have failed to reach fruition. This is quite interesting from "Business Day".

 
His case was summarily dismissed as well, the one where he alleged the BCS prospectus was misleading.
 
Unbelievably, Jim Byrnes is at it again. The following is from today's "Sunday Mail".


I hope no one falls for this. What a charlatan the bloke is.
 
Remember MAFCA - the Multiplex Prime Property Fund - which this thread predicted would become the next Brisconnections?

The old news: Like Brisconnections, MAFCA is a partially paid security. This one with 40 cents to pay. The price had flatlined at $0.001 with no buyers. Anyone who invested $1,000 at that price has a liability of $400,000, and there were plenty of people trading this penny dreadful until the new rules on buying partilally paid securities came into force after the BCS debarkle.

The new news: Nick Bolton has come in and brought 6% of MAFCA. He just brought $16 million shares for $17,000, and got a liability of over $6 million. link

The last I heard of Bolton, Brisconnections were still chasing him for $1.2 million of outstanding debt for a parcel of shares that he missed transferring. When it was suggested that MAFCA would be the next Brisconnections I don't think anyone thought it would be this much like BrisConnections.
 
...The last I heard of Bolton, Brisconnections were still chasing him for $1.2 million of outstanding debt for a parcel of shares that he missed transferring.

Hello Enzyme,

I was sitting near Nick Bolton in the Victorian Supreme Court last week and he looked like a man who was being chased by BrisCon for two claims totaling $1.3m ($100k raise on your estimate) and perhaps contemplating a creeping move on Multiplex.

Regards,
David
 
Remember MAFCA - the Multiplex Prime Property Fund - which this thread predicted would become the next Brisconnections?
Reading the MAFCA June 19 fund update one gets the impression that unitholders are being softened up for an early call on the $0.40 final instalment.

It would be interesting to know whether or not payment of this instalment is underwritten.
 
It would be interesting to know whether or not payment of this instalment is underwritten.

Hello Drsmith,

MAFCA instalment is not underwritten. Responsible Entity (RE) bears the burden of defaulted calls.

See:

PDS Link

Constitution Link


Enzyme, MAFCA-messenger, any insights on how it might play?


Doesn't look like the MAFCA registry has many low value, high volume holders (as inferred from the trading record), unlike BrisCon situation. That is other than Nicholas Bolton.

Buyers are in the MAFCA market at $0.001 for 20mil units -- but the sellers are not getting out at the moment.

Regards,
David
 
As far as instalment procedures are concerned, BrisCon is an interesting comparison to MAFCA.

(A) The BrisCon Trust Constitutions [see Link and Link for identical article in the Investment and Holding Trusts]

...state in article 4.9(e) that the Manager "may" set a reserve price at auction as then set out in sub-articles 4.9(e)(a) and 4.9(e)(b)

...when article 5.7(b) of the Underwriting Agreement states that the Manager "will" set a reserve price at auction as then set out in sub-articles 5.7(b)(i) and 5.7(b)(ii).

(B) The BrisCon Trust Constitutions also

...state in sub-article 4.9(e)(a) that the reserve price at auction will be at a price "not exceeding" the amount then set out

...when sub-article 5.7(b)(i) of the Underwriting Agreement states the reserve price at auction will be "equal to" the amount then set out.


Note: "may" is not "will"

...and "not exceeding" is not "equal to" -- even though the destination may end up being the same, the possible journeys are many and varied when you are a prospective BCSCA investor looking forward, and relying on the Investment Constitutions in good faith, as to how a Public Auction ought to be reasonably run.


It's also quite a journey to find the UnderWriting Agreeement in the public domain, as it does not appear on the BrisCon home webpage or in any ASX announcement.

Here are some travel directions [in 10 steps]:

Download Pathway
to Underwriting Agreement
from BrisConnections home website


(1) Brisconnections.mht

http://www.brisconnections.com.au/

(2) The Project.mht

http://www.brisconnections.com.au/default.aspx?tabid=55

(3) City North Infrastructure - Mind meets Matter.mht

http://www.citynorthinfrastructure.com.au/

(4) "Click here for more on CNI PROJECTS" button

(5) City North Infrastructure - Airport Link, Northern Busway (Windsor to Kedron) and Airport Roundabout Upgrade.mht

http://www.citynorthinfrastructure.com.au/home/home.html

(6) MEDIA & PUBLICATIONS

http://www.citynorthinfrastructure.com.au/media_and_publications/project_documents.html

(7) Project Documents

(8) Consortium Project Documents

(9) EQUITY DOCUMENTS

(10) DOWNLOAD: Underwriting Agreement - 3,510 Kb

http://www.citynorthinfrastructure....ts/equity_documents/underwritingagreement.pdf

Regards,
David
 
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