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Smurf lots of liabilities but briefly
If there is drinking at the work place and its condoned by the organization / company at end of working hours then there are liabilities for the organization if there is a road accident etc.
Just wondering what others think of the following situation? As someone who drinks very moderately, my view might be a bit different to the mainstream.
Situation as follows.
Small workplace within a large organisation. The work done involves mechanical / electrical tasks and associated driving, use of machinery, working around hazardous substances and so on. So there is an inherent danger associated with the work.
tb, there is a gap between the comma and the following word. Also after periods.so let me see,mechanical/electrical,driving,machinery & haz mat such as dangerous goods & the company lets you drink on the premises
Just wondering if this is a wind up? i work in the road transport industry driving b/doubles interstate & also have a forklift licence.heavy vehicle drivers limit is 0.02(meaning zero)this practice of alcohol consumption at work is strictly forbidden,come to work with a drop of drink is instant dismissal.
safety is always paramount in these industries & must be respected otherwise you will get hurt or killed quite easily
so let me see,mechanical/electrical,driving,machinery & haz mat such as dangerous goods & the company lets you drink on the premises shheesh...potential for one or several to get themselves killed & all for a drink...seen it happen & it aint pretty...
company will be up for millions,my recommendation is to cease this asap,yep i know the old..we cant get drunk etc...best knocking it on the head before workcover gets a whiff & comes in & puts a microscope up all your asses...
remember this...its not an office piss up as you have electrical,machinery,vehicles & hazmat...as you say yourself "inherent danger"
best to stop imo...tb
Just wondering what others think of the following situation? As someone who drinks very moderately, my view might be a bit different to the mainstream.
5. Legal liability of the supervisor, manager and/or company in relation to all of the above. That's the one I'm really worried about - I just can't see this ending well.
So, what do others think? I'm not a drinking person as I said at the start, but I've got no problem with a rule that states 15 minutes. Everyone knows where they stand, if it's official wash up time then there is no dangerous work beign done unless someone is working late (in which case they wouldn't be drinking), nobody's going to get drunk in that time and so on. Maybe still not ideal, but it seems a reasonable "keep the peace" compromise to me. Someone else I spoke with thought 10 minutes would be better.
Hi Smurf,
I can understand because I have seen a similar situation.
What I would suggest is to send an email to your manager saying you wish to discuss an "OHS issue regarding alcohol"
with minimal details, keep a copy yourself. That MAY cover you legally
(Maybe) prepare a summary similar to what you gave here, taylored a bit maybe and discuss the issue with him, give him a copy and keep one for yourself.
you are between a rock and a hard place, you will get pilloried if you play it wrong.
the other thing you could do is turn a complete blind eye.
if you are a union member, your union may be able to advise your rights and responsibilities.
in my experience if the boss is a pisspot, you will have no chance of success.
My understanding of OHS regs is that management, workers and supervisors are jointly and severally liable for breaches of safety
Unfortunately not. It's all true, all I've done is left out a few specifics to avoid identification of people, company etc.Just wondering if this is a wind up?
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