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Women turning into Men?

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Oh my gosh, that is shocking!:eek: heaven help it that a WOMAN:eek: should do a job that was predestined for a man! What is this world coming to.

Do you guys know how fuddy duddy you all sound? Thank God for enlightened souls like Tech/A!

I'm all for equal rights and equal pay for equal work, etc etc, but some tasks are better suited to men and others to women.

Before I started uni I worked in a factory welding, working with sheet metal, assembling goods, etc. Oddly, about 30% of the workers were female. I honestly wouldn't have cared in the slightest, and if there had been no problems I wouldn't have minded the extra diversity in the workplace, but many times every day one of the women would come up to me and ask for help because they were unable to open something, reach something, carry something, etc. So, I would have to stop what I was doing, listen to their question, walk over to their area, do their task for them, walk back to my area and pick up where I left off. Physical size and strength was required, so the women worked about 30% (I'm just estimating) slower than us on average, and probably slowed the men down by around 5-10%. On top of that, if a man in assembly had a component which wasn't welded properly he would simply walk over to the welding gear and weld it up himself, and would have been laughed at if he asked for help, but never once did a woman go anywhere near the welding gear, even though they were perfectly physically capable of it - they simply didn't want to do something 'manly' like welding, so one of us would have to do it for her. Yet come pay day they got as much as us.

At uni there were courses primarily filled by males, and so females were allowed entry with lower VCE (or HSC) scores. This successfully enticed the girls into the courses because they could get into a more prestigious course than they expected to be able... but the result was that they realised they actually struggled to survive the course because they weren't good enough to get in, and even when given extra help, allowances to pass with poorer results, they didn't want to stay because they were in a course they weren't interested in but simply chose due to being able to get into something above their expected level.

On the flip side, I chose to study biological science, which was primarily filled with girls, but naturally there was no special treatment for boys (political correctness doesn't cause us to make mistakes in that direction).

I don't think equality is about being the same. We should look at what we're best at and go with it, rather than trying to make women do what men are good at and vice versa.

It's strange that when men and women take on the characteristics of the opposite gender they tend to take on the negative aspects. Both genders have good and bad qualities. Being obnoxious and vulgar is bad enough for a man, but for a woman it is even worse. Being dainty isn't such a bad thing for a woman, but for a man it is pathetic.

Women have a lot more to lose from feminism than they realise. They are fighting for things which are making their lives much less happy. I'm not talking about careers etc (good luck to women who want a high paying job, you go, girl!), but for example, when they are slutty and vulgar, seeking sex at meat markets (night clubs etc) as men always have, they are destroying a lot of their own gender's power; men freely get the sex they want without having to commit to marriage, men don't really care so much about being unattached, but this upsets women, and they no longer have the option of being the choosy gender - in this scenario, men really don't care.
 
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Interesting program on TV the other night about gender confusion in Japan. But it wasn't 'women turning into men'. It was men turning into women.

According to the program, almost two thirds of Japanese men are what the Japs call 'grass eaters'. This term describes effeminate men who have no interest in love or sex, are vegetarians, and enthusiastically partake of feminine pursuits such as getting their hair done, having regular beauty treatment, using cosmetics, and wearing the latest fashions.

Several Japanese women interviewed complained that it was difficult to find a normal man who was interested in love and sex and marriage and kids, and just doing normal man things.
The concern is that this trend away from masculinity is causing a dwindling Japanese population, as increasingly fewer men have any interest in fatherhood.
 

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I read an article a few days ago about large companies actively seeking women in roles of power. This is just reverse discrimination. It should be the best person for the job - regardless of sex, skin colour, religion, etc...

Persuing women employees for positions of power will just lead to other employees having little respect for that person as they'll think they only got the position due to their sex (regardless of whether they were the best person for the job or not).
 
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I read an article a few days ago about large companies actively seeking women in roles of power. This is just reverse discrimination. It should be the best person for the job - regardless of sex, skin colour, religion, etc...

Persuing women employees for positions of power will just lead to other employees having little respect for that person as they'll think they only got the position due to their sex (regardless of whether they were the best person for the job or not).

Plus it's not really fair on the women who have worked their way up the ladder to be in those positions. Suddenly there will be less qualified women there next to them getting the same wages without doing the hard work beforehand in order to be there.
 
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I read an article a few days ago about large companies actively seeking women in roles of power. This is just reverse discrimination. It should be the best person for the job - regardless of sex, skin colour, religion, etc...

Persuing women employees for positions of power will just lead to other employees having little respect for that person as they'll think they only got the position due to their sex (regardless of whether they were the best person for the job or not).

Positive discrimination I think they call this gav? Just like when you see an advert in the employment section stating that "aboriginality is essential" for this particular job. I agree with you - got the qualifications then you get the job regardless of outlier attributes.
 
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Just where i was going to take this discussion when i saw it. The problem isnt women turning into men, its vice versa

Guys wearing pink,
Only when my daughter says "Daddy why aren't you wearing the shirt I boight you for Fathers Day?"
wearing makeup,
Only in my early nineties Goth period
moisturising,
I get Psoriasis on my elbows
using product,
I have scalp irritations and my hair makes Albert's Einsteins hair look classy
wearing f**king scarves,
Only in the snow
drinking lattes,
Coffee makes Sir O's brain work good
eating ceasar salads,
I like Ceasar salads - but only with a good helping of chicken
driving hyundai excels,
I sold my Excel...and bought a Ford Festiva :) I get great mileage
crying during movies,
That scene at the end of Armageddon always gets me
carrying 'manbags',
Does a Briefcase count?
getting manicures,
Only from my wife who hates me chewing my fingernails
owning 15 pairs of shoes,
I've got three pairs of shoes and couple of pairs of thongs
wearing cologne that smells like perfume
I just wear what the wife buys.I have no idea if you think it smells like perfume.
and so on and so on..... WTF?!?!

Enough to make me sick, now excuse me while i go shave my back and scratch my balls

Sir O cracks his knuckles and looks at Springhill with malice aforethought.

Cheers

Sir O
 
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Metrosexuals are the result of men trying to please women so they have an advantage in this day and age. Yes when i go to Melbourne, i do notice the men down there are certainly more `Feminised,, with hairstyling and fashion more pronounced that most women, so it think if women are getting their own way with most things ? why would they change, they just use the Advantage.

as you can see i am from Sydney, so i do notice the difference when i visit Melbourne, so its just an observation not a criticism, just to clarify before i get attacked about it from Melbournites. I think its a Great city by the way.:)
 
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By the way,, if anyone wants to read something interesting about the Gender culture and problems of men and women and how it has turned into this mess,,, just look up - The Misandry Bubble , it is a long read, but it really opened my eyes up to the reality of today with trying to find a woman to share your life with.:confused:
 
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By the way,, if anyone wants to read something interesting about the Gender culture and problems of men and women and how it has turned into this mess,,, just look up - The Misandry Bubble , it is a long read, but it really opened my eyes up to the reality of today with trying to find a woman to share your life with.:confused:

Certainly is an interesting read!

The Futurist: The Misandry Bubble
 
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One good thing ....
they might finally learn to develop a sense of humour:cautious:
 
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