Windows 11

[qldfrog]

Following Noiria's Windows 10 thread, i think we need a Windows 11 one.
Win 10 will not be supported at the end of the year which kind of make it mandatory to move to Win 11 if yiu deal with money or confidential data while connected.
At least, your bank or trader will not deflect responsabilities

 

[SirRumpole]

Following Noiria's Windows 10 thread, i think we need a Windows 11 one.
Win 10 will not be supported at the end of the year which kind of make it mandatory to move to Win 11 if yiu deal with money or confidential data while connected.
At least, your bank or trader will not deflect responsabilities

I'm pi$$ed off about this because it's reported that my machine is unsuitable to run Windows 11, even though it's still working ok.

Why should I have to buy another machine to use the latest and greatest(???) Windows when I don't need to?

 

[qldfrog]

So had to move to win 11 but my laptop, a winpad was purchased during my last foray in China , while pretty fast and bought in 2018 or so did not comply with the hardware requirements to moving to win 11 from win10 pro.
It is missing the tms chip...
I did a bit of searches and ultimately managed to install Win 11 using Rufus and a downloaded ISO.
As i wanted to keep my apps and settings, i just had to ensure the downloaded ISO was matching the system language..in my case chinese simplified.
All working well so far

 

[qldfrog]

I'm pi$$ed off about this because it's reported that my machine is unsuitable to run Windows 11, even though it's still working ok.

Why should I have to buy another machine to use the latest and greatest(???) Windows when I don't need to?

Pm me for details, what is the problem tms? Cpu?

 

[SirRumpole]

Pm me for details, what is the problem tms? Cpu?

It's the CPU apparently. I have Intel Core i5 4200U.

 

[qldfrog]

It's the CPU apparently. I have Intel Core i5 4200U.

These are the steps i followed
Make sure during the win 11 install that you have selected keep the apps and data for a smooth switch.
It does take a while to do the lot, try to have a competent helper during the install

 

[qldfrog]

Opps copy failed above

Your 'unsupported' Windows 10 PC can still run Windows 11 in 2025 — here's how

'Upgrade' your Windows 10 PC to Windows 11 — for free

www.tomsguide.com

 

[Ferret]

Good thread @qldfrog . Similar to @SirRumpole , my PC won't run Windows 11 due to missing TPM 2.0 and an unsupported processor.

I'm a little reluctant to use the workaround. Won't bypassing TPM 2.0 requirement reduce the security of my PC?

Even though things are working fine, I thought I would upgrade the processor to something that is Win 11 compliant. At 8 years old, it has done pretty well. I guess I'll need to upgrade the motherboard at the same time.

Just curious, is the TPM part of the processor or on the motherboard or somewhere else?

 

[Smurf1976]

Another option is extended security updates:

Extended Security Updates (ESU) program for Windows 10

Learn about the Extended Security Updates (ESU) program for Windows 10. The ESU program gives customers the option to receive security updates for Windows 10.

learn.microsoft.com

In principle I'm not keen on the entire concept of what amounts to, for most users, a forced hardware replacement for the sake of replacement. I say that since, for the vast majority of users, PC's are a fully developed technology at this point. Replacement isn't going to meaningfully improve whatever someone's using it for, it's not going to improve their share trading, real world physical business, education, professional work, music, travel bookings or whatever else they're using the computer to do.

It is what it is however.

 

[qldfrog]

Good thread @qldfrog . Similar to @SirRumpole , my PC won't run Windows 11 due to missing TPM 2.0 and an unsupported processor.

I'm a little reluctant to use the workaround. Won't bypassing TPM 2.0 requirement reduce the security of my PC?

Even though things are working fine, I thought I would upgrade the processor to something that is Win 11 compliant. At 8 years old, it has done pretty well. I guess I'll need to upgrade the motherboard at the same time.

Just curious, is the TPM part of the processor or on the motherboard or somewhere else?

I believe but could be wrong TPM is a on chip part of your motherboard allowing internal crypting.
I do not believe it would reduce the security of your PC.
The key issue with keeping win 10 is imho:
1) Microsoft keep releasing updates lately which screw the OS..again and again...probably just a coincidence
2) once support is officially stopped, they will be in no hurry to fix any detected security flaw, while the whole hacking set will be aware of it... a disaster security wise.

 

[frugal.rock]

How to enable TPM 2.0 on your Windows PC?

This article is to introduce how to enable TPM 2.0 for the purpose of upgrading to Windows 11.

www.iobit.com

 

[qldfrog]

How to enable TPM 2.0 on your Windows PC?

This article is to introduce how to enable TPM 2.0 for the purpose of upgrading to Windows 11.

www.iobit.com

True, worth checking, my ThinkPad just doesnot have the chip, bought in China so might explain.
i7 64 so more than able to handle win11 so issue was really need to bypass this check.
My wife still uses a very old laptop which should be dumped as definitely obsolete
Will probably trade a bit of paper gold profit for a new laptop, use that one for critical apps and give her my newly updated win 11 one.
Patriarchal familly..or just sheer optimised allocation of resources

 

[sptrawler]

2) once support is officially stopped, they will be in no hurry to fix any detected security flaw, while the whole hacking set will be aware of it... a disaster security wise.

What about, if you have alternative security eg McFee, malaware etc?

The thing is windows10 is so much more flexible and doesn't have anywhere near the amount of bloatware, that windows 11 has.

Also Windows11 has a distinctive "getting ready for subscription mode" feeling about it.

I find the small windows 10 travel computer I use brilliant, I have picked up a windows 11 one, but much prefer using the windows 10 one.

 

[qldfrog]

the official explanation is that TPM internally codes your data so makes it difficult for hackers to read /modify it...
the cpu etc requirements etc is just to fit their bloated crap you never use
And being win 11 you are kind of pushed to all these new ways to suck you dry via $ costs as you mentioned..
I do not really like the win11 look and feel but I am sure i can configure it to fit; plus I do not care as much as when I was spending 12h a day on a screen.
Now purely a tool, not a way of life/way to earn a life

 

[farmerge]

@qldfrog Crickey I struggle with the modest little bit that I can do and understand without another wheelbarrow load of high tech stuff.
It's getting close to stop the world and I will find somewhere that has easy as its way to go.

 

[qldfrog]

I am not even sure i added that info, but went thru the steps detailed in my link and was successful.
My thinkpad has been running win 11 so far without a glitch since my postings

 

[IFocus]

Strangely I have had no issues with win 11.... touches every piece of wood in house.

 

[StockyGuy]

I am not even sure i added that info, but went thru the steps detailed in my link and was successful.
My thinkpad has been running win 11 so far without a glitch since my postings

I thought of you as more the $10k+ full battle station computer set up type guy - six monitors, state of the art everything

 

[IFocus]

I thought of you as more the $10k+ full battle station computer set up type guy - six monitors, state of the art everything

Haha, I do build my own PC's and go high end, use 2 screens but that's the limit

 

[StockyGuy]

Haha, I do build my own PC's and go high end, use 2 screens but that's the limit

Yeah, two is essential nowadays... and I'm very tempted to get a third one.