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Will Craig Thomson finally give us some relief?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by dutchie, Aug 24, 2011.

  1. McLovin

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    Apparently for brothels there is a requirement that they be kept for 5-7 years depending on the state.
     
  2. joea

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    Julia
    My interpretation of that was, it was not so much if he was there, but the tapes would have shown who else was there. And in that case any tapes he referred to would have been destroyed ages ago.
    Because I think the boys got shouted!!
    joea
     
  3. rumpole

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    You make a fair point, but it could be more complex than you think. If he wasn't at the brothel at the times in question (and he says he has alibis for at least three occasions), then who was ? If the CCTV tapes are dug up, and no one with connections to Thomson turn up, how did the entries get on the card ? I still think that if he did use the brothel, leaving a trail like he did is absolute stupidity. He sounded more naive than stupid in his address, but I could be wrong about that.

    He was responsible for authorising the credit card payments. Did he see the actual transactions, or just look at the final amount , or sign what a staff member gave him ?

    I hope he can answer those questions.
     
  4. drsmith

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    While it suits Craig Thomson and Labor to make the detail as complex as possible, it remains very simple in principal.

    It's obvious that he cannot.
     
  5. BradK

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    I think we need to give him a fair go.

    For those who don't believe a word of what he said today, I direct you to his closing remarks about Tony Abbot not being fit as either a PM or an MP.

    Amen that.

    Brad
     
  6. drsmith

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    He had a fair go today and failed to provide a satisfactory explanation for the transactions on his HSU credit card. Until he does that, his character assessments of others is not worth the hot air coming out of his mouth.
     
  7. stacks

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    So guilty until proven innocent then......
     
  8. StumpyPhantom

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    That's about right, Stacks.

    This isn't a criminal prosecution (yet). The reality is the body with the statutory power to investigate did so, and found him guilty as sin (so to speak).

    Why is that so hard to accept?
     
  9. noco

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    Pottle, kettle.

    Abbott doesn't have the same allegations as Thomson, and yet Thomson refuses to step aside while trying to make Abbott look worse than him?

    If Thomson really believes Abbott is not fit to be an MP, what makes him think he is fit to be one? 1127 pages of FWA report? On his own beliefs, shouldn't Thompson step aside NOW?

    Get real...
     
  11. MrBurns

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    One thing is for sure, either Thompson or Jackson is a liar of the first order....it really comes down to who do you believe.

    As far as his comments about Abbott go , Abbott;s not the one who has to prove he didn't spend other peoples money on prostitutes.:rolleyes:
     
  12. banco

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    The innocent until proven guilty doctrine is something that applies in the Court system. There's no reason for the public to pretend someone is innocent if they are found holding a smoking gun.
     
  13. drsmith

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    Guilty that his HSU credit card was used for improper purposes ?

    Guilty.

    Craig Thomson himself is not denying that position against the weight of evidence, nor is the government. He is rather trying to come up with exotic explanations to buy time for himself and the government.

    These explanations however fail to address his responsibilities for the management of that credit card and the expenditure therein. This will ultimately be his and the Labor government's undoing.
     
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    Dont beleive either of them, lying with their snouts in the trough of union members dues.

    Her partner being 2IC at Fair Work makes the report lamentably conflicted imo
     
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    We already know beyond a shadow of a doubt he's a lying scumbag.

    On May 18 2011 FWA received an email from Mr Thomson further stating that Fairfax had settled, Mr Thomson told FWA, because its own handwriting expert had concluded "the signatures on the credit card forms [for brothel receipts] were forged". He was also able to prove that his former wife, Christa, "was with me at the precise times the card was being used in locations in Sydney", he told FWA.

    "The statements ... made by you to FWA were false," Fairfax Media, the publisher of the Herald, said in a legal letter to Mr Thomson.

    "Fairfax is extremely concerned that you have deliberately misled FWA in relation to the statements made by you ... and the circumstances leading to the settlement of the proceedings brought by you."

    These statements are false and Fairfax has written to Mr Thomson demanding that he correct them with FWA.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...explanation-20120521-1z0wx.html#ixzz1vV2zaweM
     
  17. Julia

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    Then I wonder why no media has followed it up? Perhaps because of the understanding, provided on this thread, that such footage is destroyed after 24 hours. Media would, if that's the case, have simply dismissed the suggestion by Thomson as more of his ravings.

    Because Anna Burke is the Deputy Speaker.

    Yes, you're quite right.

    Yep that occurred to me also. Why would any CCTV footage show Thomson actually at the brothel if he had made a call out for a prostitute to come to his hotel room.
    Presumably the girls carry EFTPOS facilities for outcalls?

    Brad, that's pretty silly. Tony Abbott does not stand accused of any impropriety.
    Your disliking him hardly disqualifies him from being a decent person and/or well qualified to be an MP.
    That ridiculous statement from Thomson imo put the seal on his delusional state of mind.
     
  18. Julia

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    Good to have Fairfax's slant on it which dispels Thomson's statement that Fairfax "settled with him". Makes a world of difference.
     
  19. stacks

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    Unless someone else had used the gun and then threw it to them as the police walked around the corner.....It could happen you know. If phone spoofing is possible......

    Im not defending Thompson, I'm saying that he has raised some doubt as to who actually used the card. His objective today no doubt. Either he or Ms Jackson and Mr Bolano are lying. I dont know which, for certain, do you?
     
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    I keep coming back to this. If someone else used the card, then Thomson himself admits that he has no explanation for why he signed off on the monthly statements, knowing all the while that someone was out to 'set him up with hookers'.

    And come on - this "I don't know which, for certain" is a cop out isn't it? I don't know for certain Ivan Milat is a serial killer, do you? He, like Thomson, keeps saying he's innocent. Is that all you need?
     
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