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I thought it about time that we Victorians had somewhere to whinge about our own State Government, instead of others whingeing about it.
Mick
Mick
The opposition was stupid enough to recycle an already failed leader who had been rejected by the voters.Good thread Mick, surprised we didn't have a place to vent on this dog's breakfast of a State Government to date. I can't believe that we're in a minority though because people voted these areshats back in after all that happened over the past five years from red shirts, to infrastructure cost blowouts, paying not to build roads, and being responsible for hundreds of unnecessary deaths during Covid. The only explanation is that the opposition has been so disjointed and poorly led that Labor are the best out of other diabolically bad options.
The opposition was stupid enough to recycle an already failed leader who had been rejected by the voters.
No hope for Liberals, not much better for Nationals.
Not much left really.
Mick
Not much transparency with Dan.
I actually blame the majority of the voters.
Pretty sure there is so much "free" money being handed out that very few dare bite the hand that feeds them. Therefore Dan gets voted back in.
Not like that at all. Getting taxed harder. Andrews isn't even that popular.Not much transparency with Dan.
I actually blame the majority of the voters.
Pretty sure there is so much "free" money being handed out that very few dare bite the hand that feeds them. Therefore Dan gets voted back in.
Ah the Cargo Cult where freebies just fell out of the sky.This is an absolute classic, which drives me nuts - providing 'free' anything.
How many people do we have in this society that believe that there is 'free' anything? I shudder.
I bet that every Green-Left voter thinks that welfare, etc, is 'free'.
Bunch of guys that were doing the Nazi salute were there. It was a weird rally. Basically extreme feminists teaming up with Neo Nazis against trans.Deeming's Liberal Party future 'under discussion'
Victorian Opposition leader John Pesutto said there would be a discussion about MP Moira Deeming's place in the Liberal Party after she was linked to an anti-transgender rally associated with neo-Nazis in Melbourne on Saturday.
Mr Pesutto said the immediate focus was a party room vote where he could move to expel his party's upper house whip but this would be followed by a discussion about Ms Deeming’s place in the broader party.
“What I'm doing is a statement that we will not tolerate or ever accept any association with Neo-Nazis and white supremacists or anybody who sympathises with them," Mr Pesutto told News Breakfast.
What Neo Nazi.... Surely this is a stich up?????
Nobody is challenging transgender rights above what everybody else's rights are.John Pesutto is attempting to expel the new MP Moira Deeming. I don't think that will o go down with the core of very conservative MPS who support Moiras strident views on challenging the rights of trans gender people
The challenge for the trans gender protesters is that they were actively supported by the Neo Nazi groups which see the issue as one they can piggy back into Conservative politics.
And Moira is not going to go quietly.
Liberal MP says she will fight party expulsion after attending anti-trans rights rally
Victorian MP Moira Deeming vows to fight moves to expel her from the parliamentary Liberal Party after her involvement in an anti-trans rights rally attended by neo-Nazis.www.abc.net.au
Yeah, I kinda thought it typical of the mindset these days, that a bloke (Pesutto) , wants to expel a woman (Deeming) because she disagrees with the definition of what is a woman.Nobody is challenging transgender rights above what everybody else's rights are.
This is a narrative beat up.
What is being challenged is the diminution of woman's rights. And by women, I mean actual women. Not those appropriating womenhood.
Isn't it funny that if someone wears an ethnic costume, the left losses their Goddamn minds, screeching about cultural appropriation.
Yet if a woman dares push back against men appropriating their sex, the *woman is a nazi or something.
Strange days indeed, most peculiar mama.
Attached to the letter, which is co-signed by deputy Liberal leader, David Southwick, and the leader and deputy leaders in the upper house, Georgie Crozier and Matthew Bach, is a dossier of “evidence” supporting the allegation.(a) on 19 March 2023 and on days prior organising, promoting and attending a rally where Kellie-Jay Keen (also known as Posie Parker), was the principal speaker in circumstances where Ms Keen was known to be publicly associated with far right-wing extremist groups including neo-Nazi activists …
(b) on 19 March 2023, meeting with and publishing a video with Kellie-Jay Keen, Katherine Deeves and Angie Jones, and that Angie Jones, on that day posted on Twitter words that, in the mind of any reasonable and lay observer, made association with Nazis including on 4.41pm by posting the words ‘Nazis and women want to get rid of paedo filth. Why don’t you.’
My wife, who I admit can be a little smarter than i sometimes, made the rather salient point that the men, Pesutto and the other libs, are going after the Women (Deeming and Keen), but the ones who actually did the Nazi Salute (all men) get off scott free.There has been a Liberal party meeting to discuss the motion to expel Moira Deeming. This is the background to that discussion.
Moira publicly lined herself up with neo-Nazis groups jointly protesting against trans-gender rights.
Victorian Liberal MP Moira Deeming accused of 'bringing discredit' on parliament
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Benita Kolovos
The Victorian opposition leader, John Pesutto, has accused Liberal MP Moira Deeming of “conducting activities in a manner likely to bring discredit on the parliament or the parliamentary party” in a letter warning her of his move to expel her from the party room.
In the letter of motion, provided to Guardian Australia on Tuesday, Pesutto informed Deeming he would be calling a special meeting of the Victorian Liberal party room to hold a vote next Monday to expel her. He points to two key claims:
Attached to the letter, which is co-signed by deputy Liberal leader, David Southwick, and the leader and deputy leaders in the upper house, Georgie Crozier and Matthew Bach, is a dossier of “evidence” supporting the allegation.
My wife, who I admit can be a little smarter than i sometimes, made the rather salient point that the men, Pesutto and the other libs, are going after the Women (Deeming and Keen), but the ones who actually did the Nazi Salute (all men) get off scott free.
She has a point.
Mick
Lets be even clearer. What proof do you have that (a) it was being actively supported by Neo NazisI don't think so Mick.
Lets be clear The Liberal Party is after Moira Deeming because they believe she directed/took part in a demonstration that she knew was being very actively supported by the neo nazis.
It does no such thing, except in the minds of people who want it to be so.That directly connects teh Liberal party to neo-nazis. That was the critical part of Pesuttos letter to the party quoted above. He does not want the liberal party associated with Neo Nazis.
Exactly, and neither does Deeming or anyone else. And yet somehow they become tainted by association, even though they have no control.He has no control over the neo nazis. Zilch. Zero.
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