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The country's most prestige current affairs program Four Corners is spending a whole episode on a situation affecting a miniscule number of people.

The ABC needs to stop wasting time on extraneous issues and get back to the mainstream imo.
 
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The country's most prestige current affairs program Four Corners is spending a whole episode on a situation affecting a miniscule number of people.

The ABC needs to stop wasting time on extraneous issues and get back to the mainstream imo.
I think the ABC is way past the point of being able to self assess, they will unfortunately slide into the annals of history, it is operated more like a privately owned media than a public funded one IMO.
If they were privately owned they would have gone broke years ago, SBS seems to be doing a better job all round IMO.
 

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Yeah. Right on. People don't matter.
Well, it increasingly seems that women - real women with XX chromosomes, and no penis - don't seem to matter.

Quick eg's - a man just won Miss Universe Netherlands. Another man just publically threatened so called TERFs with violence with apparent impunity.

All people matter bro.
 
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What can the public do about an individuals personal issues?
That's what happens today, how many times have we seen a picture of an individual looking appropriately sad with a child, to highlight the plight the story is portraying.
Then there is the go fund me angle, where someone has to seek public assistance, because they didn't have cover and the Government wont pick up the tab.
 
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That's what happens today, how many times have we seen a picture of an individual looking appropriately sad with a child, to highlight the plight the story is portraying.
Then there is the go fund me angle, where someone has to seek public assistance, because they didn't have cover and the Government wont pick up the tab.
Countless people can't put food on the table or pay their power bills but maybe that's too hard for the media to handle.
 
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Countless people can't put food on the table or pay their power bills but maybe that's too hard for the media to handle.
I just wish they would stop using pictures of overweight people when they report it, I'm not sure what the message is meant to be?
That poor people have to eat high fat foods, or that the pictures of POW's were fake, as starving people should be overweight. :rolleyes:
 
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Nearly choked on me weeties seeing this little gem from Waleed Aly.
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A bloke who reportedly is on a 900,000 a year contract and produces absolutely nothing except hot air and is so lacking in self awareness that he sees no irony in his statement?
Geez, what a wanker.
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OMG, has anyone checked that Albo is available and isn't still overseas, he may be required to man the hoses, Scott's retired. :roflmao:
What do you reckon @basilio ? Reasonable meme. ;)



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It's a standing joke in my home. Does this PM ever stay here on Oz soil long enough to see what's going on.
 
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It's a standing joke in my home. Does this PM ever stay here on Oz soil long enough to see what's going on.
What's even funnier the media have no criticism of politicians anymore, where are all the memes, cartoons etc of the Governments actually now paying directly, coal power stations to stay on, in some cases actually using taxpayers money to pay for the coal to be delivered. :roflmao:

Not a murmer, crickets anyone? The silence is deafening.:xyxthumbs

Loonies in charge of the asylum. ;)
 
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What's even funnier the media have no criticism of politicians anymore, where are all the memes, cartoons etc of the Governments actually now paying directly, coal power stations to stay on, in some cases actually using taxpayers money to pay for the coal to be delivered. :roflmao:

Not a murmer, crickets anyone? The silence is deafening.:xyxthumbs

Loonies in charge of the asylum. ;)

Damned if you do, damned if you don't..
The Great Changeover to renewable energy backed by batteries and other firming technologies is not going to happen as demanded.
Having a Plan B ready to keep coal fired power stations in place "in case" Plan A doesn't work is just risk management.

You don't have to like it to accept its necessity. I suspect even the Greens won't go to the ditches to stop such an arrangement.

The difference is that Morrison never ever acknowledged the need to move rapidly to decarbonisation of energy supply
 
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't..
The Great Changeover to renewable energy backed by batteries and other firming technologies is not going to happen as demanded.
Having a Plan B ready to keep coal fired power stations in place "in case" Plan A doesn't work is just risk management.

You don't have to like it to accept its necessity. I suspect even the Greens won't go to the ditches to stop such an arrangement.

The difference is that Morrison never ever acknowledged the need to move rapidly to decarbonisation of energy supply
What happened to all the, cheer leaders, who were going to buy out the coal generators to close them down earlier than planned. :eek:
Yet again no memes, WTF isn't it ironic, the company that is buying Origin are in discussions to extend the life of the coal generators.
The normally vocal loonies have lost their voice, why sell the coal station? Invest the $10billion in replacing it.;)
The difference is the responsibility and accountability has moved to the left and no one now wants to talk about it anymore. :xyxthumbs
In W.A we are paying an Indian owned coal miner, to supply coal to a Japanese owned coal power station, while closing down our own including gas fired ones.
So pointing fingers is only acceptable to the loony left when it suits them, they change the narrative and make up nonsense to justify their atrocious behaviour, then look the other way when nothing changes. :roflmao:
I personally have always believed it should be done as quickly as possible, but in an orderly manner and up until the target was made that is what was happening, now it is tumbling into chaos IMO.
Funnily enough a few years ago when I mentioned exactly what you are saying above, you actually commented I was just a coal lover and against renewables, well it's good to see you have finally had the penny drop. ;)
Where are the memes of Chris shoveling money into coal generators? Whats the 'shovel' got to say. 😂


Australian software billionaire Mike Cannon-Brookes and Canada’s Brookfield have made an $8 billion bid for Australia’s power giant AGL Energy, and promised to invest up to another $10 billion to replace its coal-fired power stations by 2030.

Brookfield, the prospective new owner of Australia’s largest coal-fired power station, has declared it would be open to discussions with the NSW government on a potential sale of the generator as it pursues the decarbonisation of Origin Energy, which it has agreed to acquire.

But speaking after the giant Canadian infrastructure investor and its partner EIG signed a binding deal to buy Origin for $18.7 billion, Stewart Upson, chief executive of the Asia-Pacific business of Brookfield, said any talks would have to involve the early closure of the huge generator as the end game, and not just defer a shutdown.

That includes the planned closure of Eraring, envisaged for August 2025 at the earliest. However, in the lead-up to last Saturday’s NSW election, then-opposition leader Chris Minns left the door open to a potential buyback of the 2880-megawatt generator if Labor won.

“We’d obviously be happy to have any conversation with the government and listen to what they have to say,” Mr Upson told The Australian Financial Review, when asked if Brookfield would be open to that option.
 
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't..
The Great Changeover to renewable energy backed by batteries and other firming technologies is not going to happen as demanded.
Thing is, none of this should surprise anyone.

I've personally said it on this forum well over a decade ago and others have likewise made the point in all sorts of places, including via the mainstream media. The issue's been done to death, indeed it probably is the single most covered news topic over the past decade apart from the pandemic. If not then it wouldn't be far from it.

For anyone to claim ignorance of the situation would be akin to someone saying they'd never heard of McDonald's or that they didn't realise there's an Opera House in Sydney. It's not totally impossible, but it would be an admission of being totally ignorant on the subject and that's definitely not good enough for anyone in politics or the mainstream Australian media.

The situation could be summed up as saying that on a hypothetical road trip from southern Tasmania to Melbourne:

Politicians and media: Everything's going nicely, we're making good progress on the Midland Hwy at 110 km/h and all seems well.

Engineers: Are we in a cabin with a port hole? Or one of the internal ones with no port hole?

Politicians and media: What's this about cabins and port holes? We're on the Midland Hwy traveling at 110 km/h and it's all going well.

Engineers: Ship. Cabins on the ship. You did book a cabin, right? Or are we spending the night in one of those damn recliner chairs?

Politicians and media: Ship?

Engineers: Well OK, call it a ferry or boat if you like but the Sprit of Tasmania.

Politicians and media: Spirit of Tasmania? We're driving to Melbourne what are you on about?

Engineers: Oh **** these idiots haven't even booked us on the ship.

Politicians and media: Well we seem to have run out of road, all we can see now is water. Which is not unexpected, I mean things do go wrong and it's a big challenge to get this done and nobody could possibly have foreseen this difficulty.

Engineers: Holding heads in hands, mumbling something about being surrounded by fools whilst frantically calling the TT-Line to enquire when the next sailing is and being informed that sorry Sir, we're booked out completely didn't you read the news about how busy we are? Didn't you see the advice to book well in advance?

Politicians and media: Well we didn't know we needed a boat, that was something nobody could've foreseen.

Engineers: It's common knowledge to the entire population that you can't just drive a car across Bass Strait on the water.

Politicians and media: Bass Strait?

Engineers: Lord please help us.....

Politicians and media: A lot of yelling and screaming followed by a fist fight breaking out.

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Australian software billionaire Mike Cannon-Brookes and Canada’s Brookfield have made an $8 billion bid for Australia’s power giant AGL Energy, and promised to invest up to another $10 billion to replace its coal-fired power stations by 2030.

Have any of these blue skiers detailed their plans to guarantee the same amount of dispatchable power that the coal stations produce and at what price ?

ie availability 24 hours a day in all weathers at a competitive cost.

So let's see them build this stuff first and then shut down the coal stations so the lights don't go out in the meantime.
 
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Have any of these blue skiers detailed their plans to guarantee the same amount of dispatchable power that the coal stations produce and at what price ?

ie availability 24 hours a day in all weathers at a competitive cost.

So let's see them build this stuff first and then shut down the coal stations so the lights don't go out in the meantime.
That is the thing at the moment, all sides are talking nonsense and try to leverage money out of it, as smurf keeps saying get the politics out of it.
Like Chris saying it will cost $387 billion dollars to replace all the coal fired power stations with nuclear, who the hell says you want to replace all the coal fired stations with nuclear? You want to install just enough to supply the firming capacity, to support the maximum amount of renewables, what he is saying is just nonsense to build a narrative so that the plebs believe it.
He says small modular reactors haven't been developed, yet we are buying 9 of them in subs, people aren't stupid, they are painting themselves into a corner on more and more issues, they really need to calm down and chill out. They are going to end up in the same situation they always do, great ideas with poor implementation and massive public backlash.

Crazy $hit, absolutely crazy not to look at all forms of clean energy, all that will happen is the resentment will build against renewables which is what you don't want to happen.
But you can see it is starting to build already, give it a couple more years and people will be marching in the streets, against wind, solar and dams.
What he should be doing is getting the public to accept that the most important thing is reducing carbon, not telling them what will and wont work, because he really doesn't know what the end result will look like no one does.
Dumb stuff IMO, all they are going to do is prove they have had another brain fart, without doing the research and planning.(Energy, immigration, voice, house prices, rents) they really need to bed something down that is really affecting middle australians.


This is the last thing you want and we haven't even started on dams yet, people need to brought along not told nonsense, if this is going to work.


Queensland tightens rules for new wind farms​

The sunshine state will require wind farm developers to meet higher environmental and local impact tests to secure licences in a move to placate opposition ahead of next year’s state election.


 
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Thing is, none of this should surprise anyone.

I've personally said it on this forum well over a decade ago and others have likewise made the point in all sorts of places, including via the mainstream media. The issue's been done to death, indeed it probably is the single most covered news topic over the past decade apart from the pandemic. If not then it wouldn't be far from it.

For anyone to claim ignorance of the situation would be akin to someone saying they'd never heard of McDonald's or that they didn't realise there's an Opera House in Sydney. It's not totally impossible, but it would be an admission of being totally ignorant on the subject and that's definitely not good enough for anyone in politics or the mainstream Australian media.

The situation could be summed up as saying that on a hypothetical road trip from southern Tasmania to Melbourne:

Politicians and media: Everything's going nicely, we're making good progress on the Midland Hwy at 110 km/h and all seems well.

Engineers: Are we in a cabin with a port hole? Or one of the internal ones with no port hole?

Politicians and media: What's this about cabins and port holes? We're on the Midland Hwy traveling at 110 km/h and it's all going well.

Engineers: Ship. Cabins on the ship. You did book a cabin, right? Or are we spending the night in one of those damn recliner chairs?

Politicians and media: Ship?

Engineers: Well OK, call it a ferry or boat if you like but the Sprit of Tasmania.

Politicians and media: Spirit of Tasmania? We're driving to Melbourne what are you on about?

Engineers: Oh **** these idiots haven't even booked us on the ship.

Politicians and media: Well we seem to have run out of road, all we can see now is water. Which is not unexpected, I mean things do go wrong and it's a big challenge to get this done and nobody could possibly have foreseen this difficulty.

Engineers: Holding heads in hands, mumbling something about being surrounded by fools whilst frantically calling the TT-Line to enquire when the next sailing is and being informed that sorry Sir, we're booked out completely didn't you read the news about how busy we are? Didn't you see the advice to book well in advance?

Politicians and media: Well we didn't know we needed a boat, that was something nobody could've foreseen.

Engineers: It's common knowledge to the entire population that you can't just drive a car across Bass Strait on the water.

Politicians and media: Bass Strait?

Engineers: Lord please help us.....

Politicians and media: A lot of yelling and screaming followed by a fist fight breaking out.

:2twocents
Absolutely brilliant smurf. :xyxthumbs
 
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